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Machiavellian on 25 March 2013
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theprof00 said:
Machiavellian said:
theprof00 said:
but it specifically refers to downloading, so how could always connected not mean it's always online, if you're stating exactly what it says?

 


Here is a quote from Sony boss on the exact same feature but Sony says the PS4 is not required to be always connected so tell me whats the difference.

 

Eurogamer: Does the console always need to be connected to the internet?

Shuhei Yoshida: You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected. The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita.

 

So the PS4 does the exact same thing.  It has a low power mode that allows the console to upload and download.  So by your definition then the PS4 must always be connected as well and Shuhei does not know what he is talking about.

That's not really answering the question is it. Furthermore, he doesn't use the words "ALWAYS CONNECTED" nor does he refer to being connected while away from the console. He only mentions when not using it.

Whats to answer?? You asked a question that I could answer anyway I want which would then take us in a circle jerk.  Instead I gave you proof of a simliar solution that does not meet your specification.  

Why don't you tell me whats the difference because he doesn't have to use the same words for the actual solution to be the same.  If the console is in a low powered mode that allows it to upload and download from PSN, then its alwasy on, alwasy connected.  If you could show me a case why this is not the same instead of of telling me the words are not the same then that would be a better case.  Both the solutions do the same thing and unless specified are the same.  Trying to wring out extra meaning from always on, always connected is going more towards speculation than anything else.

What you are trying to do is find reason that MS would make a console require internet connectivity even though with the amount of XBL subscriptions compared to how many people own the console is only 25% of the customer base. MS is a business first and it doesn't even remotely make sense for them to require an internet connection to limit the penatration of their next consoles in peoples homes.  You can bet there will be DRM but it will be on the publishers just like it is now with Project 10 dollar and other such methods.

As mentioned before, the document gives an exact meaning of what always on, always connected means so there is no reason for me to extrapolate more than what is written.  There is no confusion and there is no opinion until MS says differently.