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Mazty on 23 March 2013
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curl-6 said:
Mazty said:

Mario & Co is seen by a lot of people as kiddy and not core. That is general perception.

Actually the Xbox had 4 pad support without needing multiap as well as network support making it the party console. Timesplitters, Halo and anything else which 4+ players worked perfectly on it - splinter cell etc. 

Yes, but many others see them as core. Melee players can be incredibly competitive, (many of them are about as hardcore as console gamers get) and Sunshine was a core game through and through; it was core to a fault, actually, in that its difficulty and complexity over Mario 64 made it less accessible.

Gamecube had 4 pad support too. To this day I simply cannot fathom why the PS2 didn't, considering the N64 did it 4 years prior.

I'm sure Wii Fit players can be competitive....The issue is that Mario is a cartoon-esque italian plumber, not someone who is "cool". 

GC had the worst pads so the xbox won, as 16 player halo was incredibly good fun. Why the PS2 didn't is beyond me as well.