Nintendo's down, but not out.

[DanneSandin]

Mazty said:

DanneSandin said:

Mazty said:

Yep. Sony cocked up in several ways - last to market, highest price etc. Maybe that's the reason they have been first on the scene with the PS4? Still though Sony have managed to secure bluray and retain a sizeable amount of the market. 15% of the market is really quite pitiful and the question has to be asked with such an amount, is that company still relevant?

Nintendo was first to the scene with Wii U, remember? And I don't know where you're pulling these 15% from? As far as I know Wii U currently has 100% of 8th gen sales... Fact. and Sony hasn't secured shit with bluray. physical format is dying, digital is what it's all about, and I still haven't seen DVD die out. bluray is just another format out there, competing with DVD and digital.

It would seem that you're ignoring history. GC had something like 15%, right? I think that's where I got that number from. Was Nintendo really NOT relevant after the GC? Wii was as relevant as a console can be, so that last question from you really was ignorant.

And you still ignore the price Sony had to pay to retain a sizeable market share. They lost billions. Like I said before, It's a somewhat of a Pyrrhic victory

Let me rephrase "sony were first to the scene with a console that shows noticable improvements over the existing generation". 

Hasn't secured shit with bluray? What a technical phrase. Remember how it beat HD-DVD? Remember how in 2010 350 million bluray films were sold? Or how they are going to overtake DVD?

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/blu-ray/blu-ray-player-sales-to-overtake-dvd-players-by-2015-1030442

Yeah please refrain from talking about a topic you haven't researched. DVD doesn't need to be dead for bluray to be successful. Do you realise that Sony actually own one of the bluray printing foundrys meaning they stand to gain a lot from most sales? Plus Sony Pictures? 
Do you have evidence that the loss was due to PS3? Or the company as a whole?

Bluray might overtake DVD in 2015, but the question then is; will it be able to beat digital format? How popular will the digital format be then? A LOT of people are streaming their movies today, or downloading them. Again, it's all about perspective. DVD might be phased out, and at best, bluray will be the dominant format for a short while, before digital format overtakes it. And again, let me use the phrase Pyrrhic victory. From wiki: "A Pyrrhic victory is a victory with such a devastating cost that it carries the implication that another such victory will ultimately lead to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way; however, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit."

I think every one agrees on that Sony has lost shit loads of money on the PS3. Didn't they lose somewhere around $200 per sold console the first year? Let me show you a few pictures:

Take a look at those pictures before you ponder on this one:

Clearly Nintendo has managed to do quite well for themselves, even during the GC days (2001-2006). In no regards would I call Sony more successful than Nintendo just by looking at those numbers...