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DanneSandin said:
Mazty said:

Yep. Sony cocked up in several ways - last to market, highest price etc. Maybe that's the reason they have been first on the scene with the PS4? Still though Sony have managed to secure bluray and retain a sizeable amount of the market. 15% of the market is really quite pitiful and the question has to be asked with such an amount, is that company still relevant?

Nintendo was first to the scene with Wii U, remember? And I don't know where you're pulling these 15% from? As far as I know Wii U currently has 100% of 8th gen sales... Fact. and Sony hasn't secured shit with bluray. physical format is dying, digital is what it's all about, and I still haven't seen DVD die out. bluray is just another format out there, competing with DVD and digital.

It would seem that you're ignoring history. GC had something like 15%, right? I think that's where I got that number from. Was Nintendo really NOT relevant after the GC? Wii was as relevant as a console can be, so that last question from you really was ignorant.

And you still ignore the price Sony had to pay to retain a sizeable market share. They lost billions. Like I said before, It's a somewhat of a Pyrrhic victory


Let me rephrase "sony were first to the scene with a console that shows noticable improvements over the existing generation". 

Hasn't secured shit with bluray? What a technical phrase. Remember how it beat HD-DVD? Remember how in 2010 350 million bluray films were sold? Or how they are going to overtake DVD?

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/blu-ray/blu-ray-player-sales-to-overtake-dvd-players-by-2015-1030442

Yeah please refrain from talking about a topic you haven't researched. DVD doesn't need to be dead for bluray to be successful. Do you realise that Sony actually own one of the bluray printing foundrys meaning they stand to gain a lot from most sales? Plus Sony Pictures? 
Do you have evidence that the loss was due to PS3? Or the company as a whole?