Mazty said:
curl-6 said:
Mazty said:
curl-6 said:
Mazty said:
Nope - because it's really, really easy. 10 million units on a console that has sold 99 million +. Proportionally, that's not very good when we consider the amount of units sold on the other consoles which have almost 30 millions less sales than the wii.
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Uncharted, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Halo, Mass Effect, and Skyrim are easy too, but I bet you'd call at least some of them "core" games.
And regardless of install base, 10 million plus IS a massive number for a console exclusive. And it's predecessor, Melee, sold 7 million on the 22 million selling Gamecube.
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Those games are all mature though, and certainly not as easy as something like Mario Karts.
So in a best case scenario (also read utterly implausible) SSB will help shift 8 million consoles, meaning the Wii U taps out at 10 mill. Yeah that's guarenteed 3rd place.
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Whether something is "mature" or not has nothing to do with whether it is core.
This second statement is just preposterous; you're concluding that every Wii U sold from now onwards will only be pushed by SSB?
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Yeah it does. Something like Heavy Rain is easy (can't really fail) but mature. Are you telling me that's a casual game?
Exactly my point. You are all saying that a handful of exclusives will shift the Wii U. That's absurd. Simply put the Wii U does not have a large enough line up to be successful imo as even in best case scenarios it won't shift many consoles unless something radically changes.
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I think there's a difference in being successful and ending up in 3rd place; they're not mutually exclusive. Nintendo can end up in 3rd place (quite likely) but they can still be successful. I would never call the PS3 a success since it lost so much money for Sony and lost a lot of market share as well. All in all PS3 was a failure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a good console with good sales. I think you lack perspective when you say that Wii U won't be successful. As long as it makes Nintendo money it'll be more of a success than PS3, and possibly PS4 and Xbox720.