badgenome said:
I think it's rather unreasonable of you to expect me to provide proof that the church approved of birth control methods that we don't even know were in use. Anyway, do keep in mind that the pope used to be the secular prince of Rome as well as a religious leader, so the church's direction was often dictated as much - if not more so - by real world political concerns as by what the Bible says. |
If one doesn't know what birth control methods were in use, it is hard to point to specific ones the Roman Catholic Church approved up. They also tend to keep pretty solid records, so some evidence should be found. You see in Kaz's post, that it is very likely not a true statement that the Catholic church endorsed birth control, as a prior poster made. Now, if one considers it unreasonable to expect a person to provide links they make in this thread about the Catholic church, and have any sort of made up story that seems reasonable, because it is reasonable to speculation, then we can end up shifting the conversation completely away the original post about the Catholic church and concern for the poor, to one about how the Golden Compass is reality, and whether or not it is a good idea to have governments fund people getting familiars who don't have any, but want one, or feel they need one. Since apparently part of the argument is every single government program doesn't address anything of use, why not argue for the merit of programs for problems in other universes that aren't ours, and pretend like they are own. IMAGINE the number of jobs it would create trying to get people familiars! Well, at least this would be a tad more on topic anyhow, than this derailing into the Catholic Church endorsing birth control, which doesn't really relate to the original post, nor really has much grounds in reality.
