kain_kusanagi said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
kain_kusanagi said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
kain_kusanagi said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
kain_kusanagi said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
You can drop the name, but don't drop the fucking exclusivity! |
That makes no sense. 3rd party exclusivity makes no sense.
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That is why you believe it will make more sense for Epic Games to release Gears of War on different platforms.
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MS paid for Gears of War just like Sony paid for Journey, Flower and Flow. I have nothing against what we refer to as 2nd party games. What I don't like are straight up 3rd party exclusives. It used to be that PS2 was all a game developer needed to support because it was THE gaming system in everyone's houses. Those days are over and multiplatform engines have made developing a game for everything very easy. There is no reason to make FF vs XIII, or FF XV or whatever they call it, an exclusive. The engine is multiplatform and porting is cheap and easy. There is absolutely no reason to make an exclusive when the game can make money on other platforms. When a console manufacturer buys exclusivity it's no different than flat out buying a developer. When that happens the game becomes very much like a 1st party game even if the developer is independent. But when a 100% independent developer and a 100% independent publisher release an exclusive game I just don't understand it at all. It's a pet peeve of mine. The Xbox 360 and the PS3 have the same capabilities and each hold close to the same market share. Everything Square Enix makes should release on everything that can run the game. The same goes for EA, Activision and all the rest.
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That's cool and all, talking about what you have nothing against and all, talking about contractual games that make them second party. But once Epic Games ends their contract with Microsoft and given the fact that Epic Games owns the Gears IP, with your reasoning, you are saying it will make more sense for Epic Games to release Gears in multiple platforms. Or do you believe there are reasons for keeping games from third party developers as exclusives?
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If Epic has no contract with MS to continue making Gears for Xbox than they would be stupid not to release future Gears games on as many platforms as possible. But Epic would also be stupid not to take MS's money and MS would be stupid not to pay for Gears again.
If a console maker is willing to pay upfront for exclusivity a dev should really consider it because that's guaranteed money. But a 100% independent dev should always release on as many platforms as possible because it's no longer an big investment to do so and it guarantees a greater rate of return than releasing on a single platform. It also builds a bigger fanbase because it reaches more people who will want more if it well received.
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Fair enough. Gears of Wars is in a position where sells in the PS3 could prove more benefitial than a contract from Microsoft, depending on the zeros of said contracts. It will all depend of what Micro is willing to pay and what Epic games expectations are for Gears of War as a franchise.
You seem to rule out the possibility Sony could pay for Versus XIII to strengthen the PS4 Japan launch. As well as how Square could be seeing the same benefits in a contract, similar to when you say "Epic would also be stupid not to take MS's money", Square would also be stupid not to take Sony's money if this is the situation. As a consequence you kain cannot rule out circumstance where Square could be seeing benefits of releasing Versus as a Sony exclusive, judging by your reasoning.
Lyrikalstylez said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
kain_kusanagi said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
kain_kusanagi said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
You can drop the name, but don't drop the fucking exclusivity! |
That makes no sense. 3rd party exclusivity makes no sense.
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That is why you believe it will make more sense for Epic Games to release Gears of War on different platforms.
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MS paid for Gears of War just like Sony paid for Journey, Flower and Flow. I have nothing against what we refer to as 2nd party games. What I don't like are straight up 3rd party exclusives. It used to be that PS2 was all a game developer needed to support because it was THE gaming system in everyone's houses. Those days are over and multiplatform engines have made developing a game for everything very easy. There is no reason to make FF vs XIII, or FF XV or whatever they call it, an exclusive. The engine is multiplatform and porting is cheap and easy. There is absolutely no reason to make an exclusive when the game can make money on other platforms. When a console manufacturer buys exclusivity it's no different than flat out buying a developer. When that happens the game becomes very much like a 1st party game even if the developer is independent. But when a 100% independent developer and a 100% independent publisher release an exclusive game I just don't understand it at all. It's a pet peeve of mine. The Xbox 360 and the PS3 have the same capabilities and each hold close to the same market share. Everything Square Enix makes should release on everything that can run the game. The same goes for EA, Activision and all the rest.
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That's cool and all, talking about what you have nothing against and all, talking about contractual games that make them second party. But once Epic Games ends their contract with Microsoft and given the fact that Epic Games owns the Gears IP, with your reasoning, you are saying it will make more sense for Epic Games to release Gears in multiple platforms. Or do you believe there are reasons for keeping games from third party developers as exclusives?
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looks like you'll be one of those people that'll have a mental breakdown when this goes multi, I cant wait lol
Oh and I think Gears of War will go Multi next Gen
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Not to the point of a meltdown, I just want it exclusive.
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Why do you want it to be exclusive? There is no benefit to you if it is exclusive. We have been talking a lot about whats best in different situations for the devs and publishers, but the real reason I want 3rd party multiplatform games is so more people get to play the games. Sowhat do you get out of FF Vs XIII being exclusive? It doesn't make any sense for a gamer to want a game to be limited to only one console if it is a 3rd party release.
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And here again.
It didn't help SquareEnix and other Japanese Companies really that much going Multiplat in this Gen.
They lost a lot of their fanbase cause the biggest part is still on the Sony side.Why won't you understand that?
Games like Tales of Xillia just got so much pushed CAUSE THEY WERE PS3 EXCLUSIVE - There was no other reason behind it.
People all over the world hate the thought about Versus13(or FF15) going Multiplat - People all over the world give Microsoft the fault for
what happened with FF13 and SquareEnix and all others in general in this Gen.
A Versus13 would sell as a Sony Exclusive far more than as a Multiplat and this is a fact.Look at 13-2...The PS3 Version of 13-2 OUTSOLD/DESTROYED the 360 Version of FF13.
Why?Cause the fanbase even if those games are complete crap still is on the Sony side.
You lose a lot if you go Multiplat with Japanese Games and especially if you westernize them or give the hated console some extras/downgrade stuff from the loved console.
Gamers of Japanese Games all over the world are pretty loyal to Sony and especially don't want to get forced to either buy a game that isn't using full potential of their favorite console or is changed to fit the style of the community of their hated console.DmC,Resident Evil and a few others had to experience this cause of those reason.
Microsoft went far to invasive with their strategy in the early years of this Gen where they bought everything away from Sony and forced people to buy consoles they don't care for only to learn the games get later released on their beloved console anyway.
Makey money on other platforms would be really a good reason if the people on other platforms would buy the games.
It just hurts the sales on the Main Platform with Japanese Games.They sell less than they would as an exclusive.
And come on - Be honest.A Multiplat Game doesn't even come close to a PS3 Exclusive that is developed by one of the biggest Sony fanatics in the whole Gaming Industry.Nomura always said the PS3 is the only console that is able to handle his vision.We know why FF13 never had airships,a worldmap,cities and all that stuff while Versus13 somehow had everything with even better graphics.
But it surely wouldn't be a wise business decision cause the game would sell far less as a Multiplat.And as a Multiplat in this Gen it would be a worse game and sell less.The gamers who care for FFversus13 and wait for years now would get their hopes destroyed in just seconds and would stop caring.
Wouldn't help the game at all.
