Do you consider Nintendo gamers core gamers?

[Michael-5]

noname2200 said:

Michael-5 said:

AAA Games do not have to be mainstream games. Catherine for PS3/360 is definatly AAA, and I would not consider that casual. Same with XenoBlade for Wii. Valkyria Chronicles and Lost Odyssey are also AAA, and I think Lost Odyssey. Mind you I define AAA as games of high quality, not games with high production costs (But I think Lost Odyssey's production costs were pretty high for a Japanese game non the less).

However often times games with large production costs do turn out good, maybe not great, but good.

For the Car analogy, that would be like knowing what a Henessey Venom is, and why it's important. Cars are not the best analogy because most people can't truely afford Ferrarri's, and to a degree, most people can't afford multiple consoles, but you can always pick up a PS3/360 late into its life (now is a pretty good time) or borrow a console off a friend.

The problem here is that we've swapped out one flaw for a more egregious one. Now the defining trait comes down exclusively to subjectivity: "what does Michael-5 think a core game is?" Since that's no more valid than "what does noname2200 think a core game is?", or even "what does Sarah from Omaha think a core game is?" I'm compelled to reject the argument entirely. For a concrete example, I don't consider Catherine to be AAA in any way, and while I like Lost Odyssey just fine, and its budget might qualify it as a AAA title, I would not say its quality lives up to that billing: it's good, not great, and certainly not top-tier (in my opinion).

I don't say these things to be contrarian, or even try to debate the merits of those titles. I say it to illustrate that, if we adopt that definition of AAA, we will be talking past each other on a frequent basis. It becomes extremely difficult to have a coherent conversation when everyone uses the same words to mean entirely different things. Our conversations would start looking like the dialogue between Alice and Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass!

Blasphamy, Lost Odyssey was the best JRPG this gen IMO.

Either way, I consider anyone who plays Good quality games, which aren't just the ones with mass advertizing, or high sales core gamers. This implies they know something about gaming, and get games they like, not just want's popular.

However, as good as some Wii games are, there aren't many of them. My Wii collection is only 20 games big, whereas my PS3/360 game collection is about 100 games combined, and I'm still acquiring more.

So I can't imagine anyone who exclusively plays Wii games as a core gamer because it means that A. they don't play much, and B. They ignore offerings by other publishers.

If you look at that and compare it to a car buff, most real car buffs, while prefering one make or manufacterer, still look into rival cars, or other types of cars, and probably give them a test drive at the very least. Plus, they don't just leave the car sitting in the garage (unless it's something old and rare like a 1952 Gullwing.