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Mazty on 09 March 2013
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Aielyn said:
Mazty said:
Considering the Wii U is pushing the same games as the 360 and PS3, why not compare them? The vita is a handheld offering completely different games....Why not chuck in the iPhone to that mix if you want to compare the Wii U to the Vita?

In a buisness sense the wii u IS competing with the 360/PS3 as the target audience is almost identical. Offer the same gamaes & guess what, you are going after the same audience. How you think the Wii U is going to compete against the PS4 after seeing things like Shadow Fall is beyond me.

Why not compare them? Because your observation of similarity is from the perspective of gamers, not of business. Your comparison is not a valid business comparison.

As for the "target audience", I ask you to stop using that phrase, because you clearly don't understand it. Indeed, most online-community gamers have this bizarre idea that the Wii U is targetted at hardcore gamers. It's just plain absurd. The target of the Wii U is everyone. That's what Nintendo has been doing for the last 10 years.

You seem intent on asking how the Wii U will "compete against the PS4" on the basis of a game. So what you're saying is that you're comparing the graphical power and going "the Wii U can't compete" - and in doing so, you prove that your comparison has nothing to do with business, and everything to do with your own gamer preferences.

Not from gamers, it's from the perspective of customers. Ferrari could claim te Enzo is for your everyday working man, but that would just show incredible stupidty on Ferrari's part. A company can claim something, but that doesn't mean they are correct. Just look at how the EA CEO states the Wii U is not next-gen. 

Where did I mention hardcore gamers? And yes I do understand what a "target audience is" whereas you are just using strawmen arguments. The target of the Wii U is "everyone"? That is the most absurd marketting speil I've heard in a long time:

http://www.wiisworld.com/wii-news/wii-u-core-audience.html
http://wiiugo.com/reggie-talks-wii-u-target-audience-wii-game-transfers/
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/10/sony_wii_u_is_targeting_niche_early_adopter_market_this_holiday
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/wii-u-faces-narrow-window-of-opportunity-says-analyst-6393930
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/crysis-producer-perplexed-by-wii-us-target-audience

If you really think the business meetings at Nintendo went along the lines of "who do we want?" "EVERYONE!" and that was that, you clearly don't understand business . 

I'm saying that the Wii U doesn't currently have a target audience, and therefore very few people will buy it. Oh my, look, the sales are showing this. Core gamers will stick with their existing console until a successor is released, and casual gamers don't care about upgrading, therefore the Wii U is left in limbo as it doesn't have a particular reason to exist. Want to play 7th gen games? Stick with the cheaper 360/PS3 which you probably already own. Want 8th gen games? Get the PS4/nextbox (awaiting specs). Why get the Wii U? For a handful of exclusives that seems to be getting thinner as time moves on?