| Shinobi-san said: Wow! What a misleading thread. Quite a lot of bullshit being spread in this thread and not to mention how some of the information given is completely out of context. First off whats with the comparison of current gen PC tech with PS3 and XBOX360???? Last i checked, these consoles released 6 - 7 years ago. Back then YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT BUY A 360 "PC" equivalent for anywhere close to the price. Not even close. Second the so called affordable PC builds ive seen in this thread are hiding significant costs (given that this is mentioned in OP but its still makes posts misleading). You absolutely can't leave out the OS cost, mouse & keyboard cost, cost to assemble the machine!!! Apparently you can buy PC parts and they put themselves together...HA! Thirdly these are horrible builds. I think i saw a build for ~$450 at the beginning of the thread. Decent gpu, and decent cpu. Everything else is complete shit. How on earth can you condone a new PC buyer to buy a shitty PSU? Thats ridiculous. Please if you are new to PC building DO NOT FOLLOW ANY OF THE SHIT BUILDS YOU HAVE SEEN IN THIS THREAD. Rather create a new thread and you will get decent input on where to cheap out and where you should not. These builds just seem to throw in a low-mid current gpu and then it gets PS4 power level status somehow magically? And fourthly, saying "X cpu shits all over the PS4 cpu", or "7770 destroys next box gpu and comes close to ps4" means JACK SHIT. Where are the numbers to back up these claims? Even on the most involved forums people dont claim to know these answers. And how the fuck does anyone know what gpu is in the next xbox? And since when did a 7770 start being on par with a custom designed 7870/7850 hybrid gpu (which NO ONE actually knows all the specs of???)? Next the complete ignoring of the fact that consoles are designed with the primary function of running games. PC's are not. Developers are given lower level access to the hardware which definitely has a real world advantage. Again, I haven't come across anyone who disagrees with this. Everything is optimised for that specific hardware configuration. Look at the benefits you get when you start tweaking some game settings on a PC now take that same concept to extreme levels. The seems to be a big misconception here, that when you buy a console you buying some sort of cut down gimped PC. Uhm you not. You buying a games console. These two things are not directly comparable. And if you do decide to compare atleast ATTEMPT TO DO IT RIGHT. Also the comparisons with the WiiU are even more ridiculous. The gamepad is obviously a big cost for Nintendo when it comes to the WiiU and its exclusive to that system. NO PC WILL EVER HAVE IT (maybe in an extreme case  ). So how in the hell are you comparing ? How do we know what cost the gamepad takes up?Also people speaking about the ps4 as if its old tech...its not. Its quite a significant achievement for an APU design. Look at a massive 7870 gpu...being able to take that power and fit it into an apu design is something remarkable in my opinion. If the PS4 releases at ~400 then that will be great. And you will not be able to buy a FULL PC system (with decent components!) that has all its functionality and surpasses it for the same amount. There's just no way. At least not at the release of the PS4. |
We aren't saying it's a surprise that PC's can game better than consoles at this point. We are saying it's stupid that some people think they are incredibly overpriced. Also, what cost to build a PC you? I ordered the parts and put them together myself. That sounds pretty free to me. Don't say that you need expertise. People who put them together like doing it, and it doesn't take that long (last one I built took two hours to build and install everything). I can post a build that is $30 more than a wiiu that would beat or match it's performance, and it has a 500gb hard drive. That price includes windows. Optimization only means so much. It helps, but you can build a pc for almost the same price now that matches it's performance. You can get cheap parts that aren't bad by the way. It's also arguable if you should include a mouse and keyboard. The only person that I know that didn't have a usb mouse and keyboard was my Grandpa. If you look at the prices right now, it is really well priced. In 8 months, there will probably be a very similarly priced components by then. Yes you are correct about the fact that you won't be able to get a PC with that price per performance on release. If you could, then there would be no advantage to getting a console ever. To be clear, I am definitely getting a PS4 because I love those exclusives.
