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curl-6 on 09 March 2013
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Mazty said:
curl-6 said:
Mazty said:
curl-6 said:

Intergenerational has fuck all to do with this conversation. I never even brought it up. You've gone off on a tangent that I'm not interested in following.

 

You said that the Wii U was weak when it comes to handling CPU intensive games. You used a digital foundry article to back up your claim. I pointed out the flawed logic of that argument: that launch games rushed out with bad devkits don't represent a system's capabilities. Instead of responding to this, you changed the subject and started talking about generational gaps.


You've lost the plot of this thread dude; the topic is which console launch was handled worse, not where will the Wii U be in 5 years.

The Wii U's launch has been shit because it has not demonstrated a single game that shows a generational leap over the games offered by the 360 and PS3. Understand? You started barking on about "oh but the Wii U MAY improve" - doesn't matter, that doesn't change the launch because that dude, was in the past. 

You're the one who brought up the Wii U's supposed CPU deficiency (because I proved you wrong in you blanket statement that no Wii U titles showed any improvement over PS360) and used an article with flawed logic to defend your point, I simply pointed out your mistake.

 

The funny thing is, I actually agree with you for the most part, it was foolish of Nintendo not to invest in a launch game that pushed the system's graphics, and the (most likely incorrect) belief that the Wii U isn't powerful than PS360 has indeed impacted its sales. See, you seem to be under the impression I voted PS3. I didn't, I voted Wii U. But when you made a sweeping generalisation that NO Wii U games showed an improvement, I called you on it.

Yes I brought up the CPU deficiency to highlight who it's competition seems to be...and Trine 2 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MloukGYj8hw

The improvements there are barely noticable, backing my point that the Wii U doesnt have a single next-gen looking game. And let's be honest, Uncharted 3/Gears 3 look much better than Trine 2 on the Wii U making any improvements made to the game completely redundant...The problem I personally have with the Wii U is that if it this many months into it's life and we've yet to see a single next-gen game on it (think Shadow Fall), then does it really have the power to keep up with the PS4/nextbox? In terms of performance it seems to be more of a GC for the 7th gen but very, very late to the party.

Gears 3 / Uncharted 3 run on 7th gen systems while the developers of Trine 2 say the Director's Cut cannot.

You said: Not a single Wii U game shows an improvement in the slightest. 

I presented a game that shows improvement, and can't be achieved on PS3/360, and you backpedal and move the goalposts to "well, I can't see a difference."

The reason we don't see more impressive Wii U games is simple; not a single technically competent developer had sat down and made a ground-up Wii U game that's  built to be graphically intensive. Of course there's no games that look blatantly, obviously post-PS360, because nobody has even tried to make one yet.

Almost no system has any games that show its full power only 4 months into their lifespan. It took the Wii almost a year to get a game that looked post-Gamecube, and two more years after that for its most advanced games to start emerging.