Mummelmann said:
the_dengle said:
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It will? I guess we'll have to see. There's nothing to suggest that it will sell as much as the GC versions, the popularity and attach rates of Nintendo franchises are hard to determine, for instance Super Mario 64 sold almost 12 million, an insane attach rate and more than Super Mario Galaxy despite the Wii's massive installed base advantage. In fact, Galaxy 2 is even farther down, at almost 4 million behind the original, despite massively good reviews, even bigger installed base, the popularity of the first one and having had almost three years to sell.
With the Wii U bound to have a lot smaller installed base and the varying degrees of popularity of various franchises, there's no basis for saying that Pikmin will sell over 1 million, for instance, I find it more likely that the smaller Nintendo franchises won't suddenly flare up and grow for no reason. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition sold about 500k more than Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube and this is a remake as well.
When you say so yourself that remakes and re-releases aren't that significant, what does that say when the Wii U is basically going to have to live off of very late ports and a Zelda remake through the foreseeable future? There's trouble abound, Pikmin is just one splash in the ocean of woes the Wii U is facing now and in the coming year, I'm afraid.
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Come now. A Zelda remake is a completely different world from a New Play Control Pikmin game. Ocarina 3D is over 3 million. Previous remakes have sold over 2 million as well.
If there's nothing to suggest that Pikmin 3 will sell as well as the GC games, there's even less to suggest that it will sell dramatically less. How about the sales history of the franchise suggesting a million sales? That's the best indicator you could ask for.
And I'll add that Mario Kart and 3D Mario are in the foreseeable future. You forgot those little things.
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I haven't forgotten anything, until the holidays, the Wii U's line-up is looking incredibly weak from where I'm sitting. Mario Kart and 3D Mario are true system sellers, along with NSMB and Zelda, there's denying that. They're also arguably the best franchises Nintendo have (and that's saying something).
How is there less to suggest that Pikmin won't cross 1 million sales? What in the Wii U's market and current situation makes 1 million or more credible? At best, there's an equal chance of selling well and selling poorly, there's no present logic to suggest that Pikmin will do very well, certainly not presiding over the opposite.
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Actually, since the first two titles sold 1.6 million and 1.2 million respectively, there is every reason to expect that Pikmin 3 will also be a million seller. This was with a very low selling system. Even detractors say Wii U is another GameCube, so I think at worst one would expect WiiU to have similar lifetime sales as the GCN, and Pikmin 3 to be around what the first two titles. In truth reality, I would personally expect it to do a little better. Wii U is in a better position than GCN being the successor to a market leader and not facing the tital wave that was the PS2 already being out for a year. Pikmin 3 is in a better position than Pikmin, being an already established brand, having fans who have waited a long time for a sequel, arriving on a system that is hungry for games, and being the game that is the first real visual 1st party showcase title. Anything could happen, but there is certainly more reason to think it will be a respectable 1 million seller or better, than to expect it to bomb.
