fordy said:
Barbarossa said:
Battle.net maybe? With blizzard supporting it not impossible I guess and you also said they kind of mentioned it already. Oh, does this mean WoW on PS4?
fordy said:
DanneSandin said:
fordy said:
DanneSandin said:
He doesn't have to have that since he's a developer... What he's told me is that 3rd parties is sick and tired of the way Nintendo is acting; I don't know if he represents the whole industry...
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Developers don't make the decisions, the executives do. If he doesn't have to have much business sense, then he also shouldn't be speaking for EXECUTIVE business decisions. How is this, therefore, a "trustworthy source"?
I'm calling BS on this. It lacks common sense and defies any kind of business logic.
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I couldn't agree more, and that's why I said that Nintendo is fucking up big times.
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Nintendo is fucking up because your agument is illogical? No, they've been doing so long before that.
Let me give you an example of this. I'm an executive, and I call for a game to be developed for the Wii. Now, as an executive, how do you think I'd react if my developers came back and said "We refuse to develop for the Wii because we're not entitled to the same memory allocation as Nintendo"? Keep in mind that the executive doesn't give two shits about technicalities, they're in charge of financial and overall business decisions.
A working example of this was Square moving from Nintendo exlcusitivity. It wasn't done on a TECHNICAL sense. It was done on a FINANCIAL sense. In fact, look up some youtube videos on the history of Squaresoft, and the workers at the time explained how executives came in one day and just told the team "We're going with PlayStation now". It wasn't the devs making this decision, they just did what they were told. A lot of devs were excited, and a lot of devs were disappointed by the decision, but they still had to follow executive orders.
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I think Square abandoned Nintendo because of the lack of a cd-rom. They just thought it was the future, turns out they were right. A mistake Nintendo still haven't recovered from.
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If cartridges costed the same per MB as CDs, do you think that Square would have moved?
Once again, the technical details didn't bother them. After all, originally they weren't phased by it since they made a demo of FF7 for the N64. It was when they made a massive game that was going to be incredibly expensive to fit on cartridge that they decided to take the cheaper option of CDs. This has been mentioned many times by Square staff in interviews. Once again, purely financial decision. They didn't do it just because "CDs are the future".
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Yes, I think they would have moved anyway because the game they wanted to make would not have fit on a cartridge.
FF7= 3 CD-roms, total game size roughly 1.8 GB according to Sony. N64 cartridge=64MB
http://xenon.stanford.edu/~geksiong/papers/sts145/Squaresoft%20and%20FF7.htm
This article features some interesting tidbits of what happened. Presumably Enix's Dragon Quest left Nintendo for the same reason.
Of course, there was a financial aspect as well, plus Nintendos relationship with Square seemed somewhat infectious at the time. In this case, though, I believe the technical limitations was the main reason for the split because it inhibited their artistic vision for the game.