| joeorc said:
there was also a cart type of sled in that patent where the handheld ie even they used a cell phone at the time, fit into the sled with a cam attached to the sled, the game boy camera was a cart made to fit into the Handheld, thus like i said that the concepts were made to fix or tackle the same problem they both designed the fix the issue. for instance the Jupiter company was the one's who made the Game boy camera but Nintendo along with " but that is not the case at all, both were camera's what you do with that camera is just as important as the camera's creation correct? the very point of innovation is to expand the use of said created invented methods of something in the first place.without said invention there is no innovation! because the method of such created invention is not there. like what you just described, the propeller and the heliocopter is tied to one another without said propeller there would be no Helicopter. Just as there would be no Helicopter because there would be no main rotor. Take the belt example, it was made to hold up mens pant's than someone used the same belt to hold school books together from falling out of you arms while you carried them. or to keep the book cover closed on a big heavy book. Innovation is the creative use of an invention that does not mean the creative use of said invention is one companies or one person's idea in the first place. if that was indeed true when Nintendo got its pitch to do the Motion control in 2001 by a 3rd party company, Sony was already showing off a concept of motion control a year early, does that mean that sony copied the company that showed off their concept to nintendo in 2001? when Sony was already showing off their method in 2000? No it just means both Company's were working on a method to motion control's for entertainment purpose, or other motion control applied uses's. one will make it out first, that does not mean the other one is a copy of the one that makes it out first. |
I agree with the last part (in bold) because that was two people working on the idea in parallel. With the GB camera versus the eyetoy, we know which one came out first. The same is true about handheld to console cross connectivity. In that sense we can't blur the lines in those cases as we can in the case of Wii vs move.
However, in the HandSpring vs GB Cam, I'm going to have to disagree with you. The man who used his belt to tie books together came up with an innovative application of an existing creation. In the case of handspring, the patent doesn't mention cameras, it mentions a rotating extension to a handheld. But the heart of the topic isn't an extension to a handheld, it's not even handhelds. It's cameras attached to consoles. In terms of the creation, webcams existed since 1994. So neither HS nor Ninty invented the webcam. The first use of it on a handheld is Ninty's, as it is the first use of it on a gaming console. HS didn't have a patent for cams, they had a patent for extensions to handhelds. We don't know when the cam was made a part of it, and there is little indication it was meant in a gaming application or context. So all in all it had little bearing in the context of the topic at hand (Eyetoy vs kinect vs GB camera).
