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drkohler said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
For the industry itself, i expect it to schrink this generation. Maybe 20-30%. The economy is just too low and the console prices too high.

No the console price are not too high, they are way too low. I paid $2700 for my AppleII (and it didn't even say AppleII on the cover..) and that was _cheap_ then and I was happy..

/begin{rant}

The problem is that people expect 99c hamburgers with fries, $19 dvd players, $99 washing machines, $199 seven day full accomodation holidays in the carribean, etc. Anything higher and people start to endelessly bitch and moan. "Fair price for fair work" doesn't exist anymore in people's minds. They want $299 consoles that perform like triple SLI Titan gaming PCs, anything less is "unacceptably expensive". I know lots of frustrated people that created good stuff and mostly they got the typical "$x9.99 is way too much for this -yo u are robbing us" hammer.

My hardware breakdown (in another thread) comes to about $425 manfacturing costs so an estimated production cost of $600-$700 for the first batch of PS4s (same goes for NextBox). Can you at least see the frustration Sony and MS engineers must certainly feel when they see all those delusional "$3x0 is a good and fair price for the PS4/NextBox" ?

/end{rant}

It's sad. I'm afraid the averige consumer is rather a demanding, cheap pr*ck. They mostly pay $300 for a dedicated console, no matter what's in it.

Edit: Though no one is forcing those Sony and MS engineers to make $600-$700 consoles. They could always choose the cheaper, and even Nintendo route.



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