Mummelmann said:
Subie_Greg said:
Mummelmann said:
Subie_Greg said:
Mummelmann said:
Come on, seriously, that UE4 comparison does not favor the PS4 at all. And they're also at different levels of zoom, different angle and different lighting.
And like vlad has pointed out, there is no depth of field or particle effects and the flames are rendered poorly. Overall, the difference is big and not in the PS4's favor, not even close.
PC's won't need to play catchup, you can fire up a 4k display with all effects and full AA and all filters, to suggest that consoles have the best visuals and a tech advantage is folly. Metro 2033, which came out in march 2011 looks a lot better than anything shown for the PS4, at least with everything maxed out in DX11 mode (no mods). The particle effects are among the best ever seen, the lighting and textures are grand and the depth of field is amazing both in brighter and darker environments. Not to mention how incredible some games can look with mods. Unfair comparison? Not really, that's one out of many distinct advantages of PC gaming.
People are getting carried away with the PS4 and consoles in general, its always the consoles that are playing catch-up with the PC, not the other way around.
I don't know why a lot of console gamers think that if a game looks bright and shiny, it has world class visuals, there's more to it than that.
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Who's PC? My PC? The PC's sitting at Best Buy?
Comparing Console and PC is dumb imo. But comparing a Console to a custom build PC is beyond dumb. Of course many of these tech demo's look better on PC than Consoles. Those PC's are using GPU's that retail for more $$$ than the PS4 itself will cost.
You can buy a PS3 right now at Best Buy for $250. What PC are they selling for $250 at Best Buy that out performs the PS3?
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When people say "PC's will be playing catch up", that implies that PC's are unable to keep up with the tech when this is clearly not the case. This is one of the biggest advantages the PC has as a platform.
I agree that comparing PC's and consoles is dumb, that's kind of what I'm implying, the PC will always be technically superior.
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Exactly! How come you are the only one smart enough to figure that out lol
Gaming needs the PC gaming community. They move graphics and tech forward. But Gaming also needs Console community. A good portion of the money made on games themselves come from the Console side of things.
Gaming is a hobby/passion for Gamers. But it's a business for the Game Creators. Gaming needs both Consoles and PC's. Why we fight about this as a community is unknown to me
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PC gaming and development is almost like Formula 1, you test and develop features and hardware to utilize on more commercial models (TCS, ASM, ABS and almost every safety feature of modern cars come from motorsport). Its true that the PC and console scene need each other, I've always owned at least one console in addition to the PC, its the perfect match if you truly love games and gaming.
Besides, the PC is an evergreen for Indie titles through digital distribution and the possibilities with emulators and other implements are endless! 
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THIS
Something that Consoles should have been doing since 2006 is a big push for Digital games. They are starting to now, but should have happened sooner. With all the tears shed about Used Games, I am surprised that Digital Games wasn't the answer they came up with. Make them ready to buy and download same time as retail release (or even allow preorder and predownload) and make them slightly cheaper than retail.
I bought Hitman for PC as a Digital for $50 day one. Console version $60 at retail. Somethings wrong there lol
Also Console needs to lower Digital price when Retail does. Too many times have I seen a Console game new at Best Buy for $40 while the PSN store still has it at $60. Not used copy either. Has to change
