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Scisca said:
Ljink96 said:
I'm sorry guys, I love mario but the New Super Mario Bros. series is slowly dying. It's like if you've played the Wii one you've played all of them. It's not an example of what the Wii U hardware is really capable of. I've been gaming for many years, don't question my credibility please. I'm really tired on New Super Mario Bros. they need a new mario series honestly. I love Nintendo's mario games but there's a point in time where mario is enough. What's really stupid is comparing the Vita to the Wii U. Two totally different consoles/machines. If you can't count the Wii U is still doing better than the vita even though it is slightly.

The system may have a Mario game but it isn't an innovative mario game. Nobody is going to go buy a Wii U because New Super Mario Bros. U is taking advantage of the hardware and it's completely different. Super Mario Galaxy added in new mechanics that made Sunshine look like crap. People want games that they feel are new. New Super Mario Bros. isn't that new anymore. If you've played one you've played them all. Yes, I'm still a Nintendo fan but my thoughts on the series haven't changed. After NSMBW it gets kinda old.

Look. I agree with you that 3D Mario is much better than 2D Mario. I enjoy it much more and I couldn't care less about NSMBU. But that doesn't change the fact, that the general public loves 2D Mario and doesn't care that much about 3D Mario. It's a fact and sales prove it. If the release game was a 3D Mario, it would be even worse for Nintendo than it is now. 2D Mario and Mario Kart are the two ultimate system sellers, the best in history. 3D Mario is good, but can't even be compared to these titans.

If you align the launches of Wii U and Vita, Vita sold 53% more consoles in its 11th week than Wii U did in its 11th week. It is doing worse than Vita was doing at that point.

This is a highly simplistic way of thinking though, this proves nothing. This was the very "proof" that Wii fans used to show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Wii would outsell the PS2 without problems and that it was easily headed for more than 50% marketshare. Aligning launches and comparing handhelds, generations, prices and software informs us of very little, so the users who are suggesting the Wii U pulling a 3DS are even more presumptuous in their assertion.

I agree with what you said above though, trying to promote 3D Mario as a bigger system seller than 2D Mario is just another excuse for the low sales and extreme decline (the Nintendo crowd are starting to sound like their nemesis, the Sony fan, when they were going on about "just wait for game X or Y"). By going back a few months, you'll note that the Wii U's launch line-up was praised and hailed as terrific, it was even dubbed the "best launch line-up ever" and would surely work wonders. Sales plummet, launch line-up was suddenly shit and Wii U has no games and no system sellers (except the second biggest one currently on Nintendo platforms overall). Did the 360, PS3 or even the Wii get a slew of awesome titles in their first months? Hell no, very few consoles do, yet they managed to sell a lot better than the Wii U. Its not a software problem, its the aim of the hardware.

Then there are those who blame the economy. Despite the DS setting records, movies grossing more than ever before, games grossing more than ever before, the 7th gen is a whole lot bigger than the 6th gen in both hardware and software, and smartphones and tablets selling like never before, same goes for costly TV's and stereo, people are still spending but they have diverted their funds elsewhere and gone to other markets (greener pastures and all that).

The Wii U is aiming at two markets and missing both, like I've been saying all along. The Vita is in the same position, it is attempting to reach both handheld gamers and home console fans, not a very good blend, the console lacks focus and direction. Besides, multimedia devices such as smartphones and tablets are eating up the market the handhelds used to occupy and own and the room for growth is gone and dedicated handheld devices will likely disappear within a few years.