Nem said:
RolStoppable said:
Aielyn said:
The point isn't so much about what is happening right now, but what happens once the other platforms are released. Wii wasn't the first one out of the gate, so it wasn't in the same position as the Wii U in that regard (and that's probably the biggest failure in his effort to equate the two systems - he describes the Wii as having come out "close to the start of the generation").
And his greater argument isn't that the Wii U will be a phenomenon like the Wii, but that there's more to the strategy than meets the eye. It's less about the results and more about the intent.
As for THQ, the point is that it'll serve as a case study for the other publishers. Development costs spiraling out of control, greater focus on "online passes", etc, and the fact that they didn't really put much support on the Wii (they did publish de Blob, but other than that, the only notable releases were the niche Deadly Creatures and their WWE series).
And if you pay attention, EdgyDude doesn't so much predict that third parties will all move to the Wii U, but that those that don't are going to fail anyway.
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By the point third parties might realize that they need to sell more games, the Wii U will most likely be dead in the water already due to a lack of third party support. This will not result in any sort of measures that benefit Nintendo, but rather efforts to milk the consumers on Sony and Microsoft consoles even more.
The intent behind the Wii U was to get third party support. It's not coming and it's not going to come, so the strategy has failed.
The final point, the inevitable failure for many third parties, is about the only good thing that is coming from Nintendo's self-destruction in the eighth generation.
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remind me how things were for the 3ds 3 months after launch and how they are now. Short memory huh?!
Predict to me this: what will happen if nintendo releases a 3d mario and mario kart 8 with say a 70 euro/dollar price cut this christmas? take into account that zelda ww remake will already be out.
Yeah... maybe you are proclaiming failure a bit too early eh? i remember the claims that the vita was going to destroy the 3ds and how doomed it was.
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I think the Wii U is in a whole different place than the 3DS was back in 2011 for a numbers of reasons:
Wii U will be facing heavy competition from the PS4 and Xbox720 this holiday - around the same time when either, or both, of 3D Mario and Mario Kart is released. 3DS had only Vita to compete with, and it was only released in Japan with a hefty price tag - so it wasn't much of a competition. If either MS or Sony prices their new console at $500 I can see Wii U doing better.
3DS has plenty of games, whereas Wii U doesn't, and it doesn't look as if it'll be getting much 3rd party support either.
And you forget that GameCube and N64 had Mario Kart, 3D Mario, SSB and Zelda as well but those games didn't do much to help Nintendo except to keep them afloat.
I'm not saying that Nintendo is doomed or that Wii U can't be turned around, but you can not rely on those titles to make the console blossom and flourish. No one in their right mind would say that GC and N64 thrived. Wii thrived without 3rd party support, but it's also THE ONLY console to do so without heavy 3rd party support.
