Why Create the Universe?

[Hawk]

IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Roma said:
knowing the answer to this dose not prov if God exists nor does it prove that God does not.

but this doesn't mean it's a bad question

maybe he want's to prove something to the angels or the devil that out of people who can chose how they want to live life there will be those who against all odds still remain faithful to him. we can't possible think the way God thinks so we can't possible know why unless he has told us

That wasn't my intention either. I am simply asking for the reasoning behind creating a universe when the entire process and result is already known by the creator. We discussed this fairly recently: Why would God let the people go through pain and suffering instead of just skipping the painful part and send the eventual heaven and hell residents to their eventual destination immediately? The suffering doesn't need to be there, which is something that an almighty god should be aware of.

Also: God wouldn't need to convince the angels or Satan about anything. If he wants them to understand something, he doesn't even need to snap his fingers to make that happen.

 

If God doesn't make sense to us then he simply doesn't. And I find it absurd to require that your creations believe in an absurdity.

You can't skip the suffering.  There is no good if there is no bad.  There cannot be a hero if there is no villian.

If everything in life was perfect, everyone had a large home, everyone made a million dollars a year, disease and rainy days did not exist, then no one would appreciate any of it.  Just as there would not be any sorrow or hard times, there would be no joy or appreciation, just a muted dull existance.

Our favorite stories are those where there is a big crisis, things look as bleak as they can get, but then people or the hero are able to defeat the crisis or villian.  If we watched a movie of people who woke up to sunny days and ate crumpets and drank tea every day and played video games and strolled on the beach every morning and night, we would be highly bored and have no appreciation for it.

I will not argue that the extremes of suffering are necessary.  But a life without risk, is a life without reward.