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S.T.A.G.E. on 09 February 2013
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Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Looks good. Hope there are some games to match. I've never doubted Microsoft when it comes to entertainment pieces and multimedia, just games.

Never subjective, this is why you're so respected.


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You shared a ridiculous opinion only incredibly bias PS3 fans seems to share.

Hope that clarifies.

Breakdown time...


"ridiculous opinion"," PS3 fans", "bias"

Key words in your response.

 

1."ridiculous opinion": Look at my post and clarify where what I wrote was ridiculous besides saying it looked good, but I've never had to worry about Microsoft with multimedia. In fact, my biggest gripe with Sony (in other posts) is that they don't market and add flash and flare to their media like Microsoft. All I said was that I hope they have games to match the flashy multimedia aspects that they always seem to implement so well. I give credit where its due and your prying eyes want to read more into it than what is written.

2. " PS3 fans": Not once did I boast about Sony or any other competition to Microsoft, but rather their lack of focus on games.

3. "bias":  Where? Where? Tell me where there was bias? I think the idea is pretty cool, besides for people with epilepsy, maybe. 

There is a difference between bias and constructive criticism. Learn the difference and YOU stop acting like a paranoid Microsoft fanboy.

1. Obviously I'm referring to how you regularly crowbar a reminder you don't feel MS puts out good games. Don't play stupid, this wasn't even subtle. "I've never doubted Microsoft when it comes to entertainment pieces and multimedia, just games." You're a rabid Sony fan and you're always in MS threads spewing crap like this.

2. Like I told you in other threads, MS puts out games at par and arguagly better than Sony and NIntendo. They're plenty focused on games.  All of Sony's 2012 releases were bombs. Yet I don't hear your complaints about Sony's lack of focus on quality.

3. Your criticism is never contructive. You doubt their games...? Why? Because you personally don't enjoy them? Pretty much everything you say about MS is obnoxious, never constructive.


1. There you go seeing what you want to see again. you quoted me and still managed to stretch what I wrote into something worse than what it was. If you are reading what I am writing properly you would see what I WANT their games to be on par with their multimedia prowess which is relentless on a yearly basis.

2. That is your opinion. You cannot force me to believe it and I will not get into an "arguably better games than the competition" argument, because that will start a list war and that is where you will lose.

3. If you act like I am the only one to offer the same criticism, you are blind to the gaming media. What is constructive you huh? Acting like they are perfect? No.

Warning: Now take your paranoia and keep it to yourself before I get the mods to assess the situation. Unlike probably you an some others, I don't stealth report people without a warning. I want people to know when I do it. It's a little something called harassment.

1. Okay, lets pretend you weren't downplaying their games. And lets pretend you haven't done so in other threads. Perhaps their multimedia prowess only seems amazing because the competition is lackluster. Saying you want their games at par with their multimedia is ridiculous. Its apples and oranges.

2. The only list wars Sony is winning at the moment is quantity and most bombs.

I can say MS puts out arguably better games than Sony because Sony doesn't have anything that blows Halo, Forza, or Fable out of the water. I can argue that because I prefer those games over pretty much everything Sony puts out. You feel Sony puts out better games as if it were a fact. But when I play Sony games... I just don't understand the hype.

3. What is constructive to me? Well maybe some thoughts that aren't motivated by bias. I mean you really think saying MS's games should be at par with multimedia is useful criticism? That doesn't even make sense!

Fine, tell them I am harassing you. I don't care because I genuinely don't feel I am. This is a forum, its where people share thoughs with each other. If you share a thought don't be surprised if someone responds and questions you. I don't seek you out, coincidentally you always just seem to pop up in MS threads even though you clearly aren't a fan.


1. I am not pretending and I am not downplaying Microsofts games, they just don't put that much money into a game unless they know it can sell. They even admitted it. I guess that is an inconvenient truth, but again even they wouldn't disagree because they talked about the risk that comes with new IP's. Sure they'll start a gen with some, but they only leave the gen still with a full hand of titles and nothing more. Granted that means they are smart, but it also shows a lack of heart when it comes to taking risk to push gaming to a true next level. 

2. I don't need to argue that Microsoft has the best shooter, because thats all based on personal  taste. Personally speaking, I think Halo is one of the best shooters of all time, but thats where the buck stops on Microsofts first party. I like Forza, but I believe GT is the complete experience and for either you or me that can be subjective. Again...don't do list wars...you will lose when it comes to games Microsoft actually creates. You can bring Fable into this but I told everyone that even though Fable sold fairly well Lionhead would implode and the house of cards would fall on that disgrace of an RPG  because of the lack of ability to close in on bets made that they would revolutionize RPG's. They had people banking on a promise and now the top devs have left and Molyneux left the building. The first Fable made me say hello, but the second and third put a nail in the coffin of the promises made by that company.

3.When I say Microsofts games should be on par with their multimedia is the amount of money and effort Microsoft puts into their multimedia and acquiring other peoples apps and things they should put that into newer games, but I guess we'll see where the 360 failed there the 720 might definitely succeed, so i'll bite my tongue on that for now. Again, look at any E3 for the past three years, the biggest improvements to the Xbox are the multimedia sections. Microsoft has the multimedia foundation, Gears isn't going to last so I hope Black Tusk and the other core devs have something up their sleeve. Constuctive criticism is showing how a problem can be fixed efficiently and if you don't like that well you're seeing what you want to see. As I said before, go on any gaming site, when you look up Microsoft the majority of the games they show are multiplats and one or two exclusives per year. On the other consoles, it halfway or mostly exclusives. Their multimedia is top notch from a community perspective and the competition needs to keep their eyes peeled on the 720 when it is unveiled. 

Tell me, when I tell you that I believe what I am saying is true and you're misrepresenting my words why do you keep trying to force it down my throat that I am saying otherwise? Even when you quoted me it never helped your case. I want Microsoft to grow and evolve as a company, but more as a gaming company than a multimedia one. They've been great with multimedia since Windows, so they don't need a quiz to ace that test. Again, I like the illum room idea and you look past the fact that I think its cool just because I (as well as the gaming media) feel that Microsofts first party is shallow.