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VGKing on 06 February 2013
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maxnyc said:

Well i guess it's official, ps4 will definitely be Sonys last console (along with the Vita as their last handheld). It will sell miserably at that price point. It's been a good run, but Sony for the loss!

This is a very good price point. You have no idea what you're talking about.

For fans, sure. For the normal consumer...not so much.

PS4 is designed to peak in its 4-5th year on the market. A $400 launch price is perfectly acceptable, even to the "normal" consumer. 
Keep in mind people are buying $500-$600 iPads every year. Keep in mind the $600 PS3 actually ended up being competitive despite the huge losses and much higher price point. I expect the next XBox to have the same price point so I don't see price being a problem this gen especially seeing as how the "affordable" Wii U is selling horribly. It's mostly about the games.

Compering tablets to consoles doesn't make much sense because tablets give the consumer much more value than a gaming console. You can make calls (extremely important in case of an emergency), check your email on the go, have your paper work in it (in case you have a job), watch movies and TV series, connect to the internet, etc. 

In todays world having a tablet is a neccesity (for the most part), gaming consoles are not, they are just a hobby, which many people prefer to spend on other things.

I agree that what will sell the console are the games, all the power or entertainment medias won't be a selling point for most people (unless you have something similar to motion controls like the Wii).

No, a tablet is absolutely not a necessity. It is an entertainment device, a play thing. All those things you mentioned, a console woudl be able to do. Email, TV, Movies, Internet, Calls(through Skype or something)..etc. A fun fact: most tablets are used at home and are not connected to 3G/4G as most people reserve that for their phones.

You still have portability, you can't take your console outside and do all those things. Business people NEED to have a tablet because they keep their work on there, have to check their email constantly and receive important calls. If you want you can also include gaming in there, a normal consumer won't have the need to pay a $400 console because all their "gaming needs" will be satisfied with the Angry Birds and the likes (unless, again, you have something revolutionary like the Wii). There are also some pretty cheap tablets like the Kindle Fire that offer all of those things (minus making calls), for something that it's waaaay cheaper than this rumored price.

As a gamer it obviously "pains" me to see people paying $500+ on tablets, but the reality is that most people do not see the value of gaming consoles when they are expensive. $400 is not a good price for short term success imo. Long term success is a different story, but this could be a double edge sword. 

You only have portability if you paid for some kind of 4G connection, most don't. I see your point that many people are content playing Angry Birds on their tablets or phones, but there are many that aren't as well. PS4 aims for long-term success, not short term. A $400 price point is pretty good for something that you'll be playing for more than 5 years. Look at PS3 back in 2006 and now in 2013. They are completely different consoles in terms of functionality. I agree that $400 is not affordable, but it is not overpriced either, not for the type of technolog you're getting. It's rumored to be 6-8x the power of Wii U, but only about an additional $100. I say that is amazing!