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fooflexible said:
ferret1603 said:
Figures like this are such nonsense. There is no way their loss can be quantified because there's no way of knowing how many people would actually have bought legal copies if pirated ones weren't available.

This is so true, I'm tired of these abusrd figures. I know of people who'd buy a system only because they could pirate software, then they'd pirate every game known to mankind just because they could. So you could suggest they lost 1,000s of dollars because of this one person when in actuality they really lost no legitamate money. Also this doesn't figure in the money they gained because of piracy, yes they actually make money of pirating too. For example. A kid might buy a 360 only because he knows he can pirate games for it. But he buys an extra controller, x-box live service, and lets say he buys the legitamte versions of games like halo 3 and cod4 because he don't want trouble with it working online. in this case the piracy actually made them money because it provided an incentive the customer required to purchase the system. I'm not trying to say piracy is good, just that the argument needs to gain more perspective, on what's actually going on. And for the record I don't pirate, I've bought more games then anyone I know. Although people legally just buying used games, borrowing games from friends, and renting games from the video stores are hurting the industry just as much as this money while supporting a group of businesses doesn't actually provide revenue toward the developer or publisher, meaning it doesn't reward the ones doing the creating.

 

Exactly. I mainly buy second hand games so I would never condemn someone who chooses to pirate games. Neither hurts the industry any more or less than the other.

I really hate it when people rant about how evil pirates are. If you want to buy brand new high price games then go do it but don't tell other people what to do. Not everyone can afford it and plenty of others just wouldn't play games at all if it wasn't for piracy, which would be worse for the industry than the current situation because hardware sales would plummet, particularly in lesser developed countries.