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TruckOSaurus said:

While I know the intended reaction was something along the lines of "Wow Raiden is so badass now!" all I could think of was that Kojima was trying too hard. I was completely turned off by it, I could almost hear Kojima screaming in the background "See! I told you Raiden was cool! Look he can bounce around and slice metal like butter, now do you love him? DO YOU?!"

I think Raiden is a reasonably compelling character on paper (former child soldier and all that), but I've always found the execution to be somewhat lacking. I didn't hate him in MGS2 as much as some (most?) people did, but Rose was INSUFFERABLE and I would have respected him a lot more if he would have told her to, for the love of God, shut the fuck up because it's not really a great time to talk about feelings right now, woman! It was this, not his bishonen looks, that made him seem like such a contemptible puss to me.

I agree with you about Cyber-Raiden in MGS4. I didn't buy into the "He's cool now, isn't he?!" thing, either. It seemed desperate, and also, he just wasn't really that cool. But Cyber-Raiden in Rising looks sick as all fuckkkkkkkkkk, so now I'm definitely buying into it!