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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 February 2013
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KungKras said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KungKras said:
thismeintiel said:
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DanneSandin said:

So what you're saying is that Wii U will dominate 3rd party support? Weaker power and abysmal sales = 3rd party support?

No, I am telling you that the Wii U was never going to get much third party support, even if it's hardware were up to par to Sony's and Microsoft's eighth generation consoles and if it were the best selling eighth gen console on top of it.

What BS.  I guess that's why Nintendo got GREAT 3rd party support during the NES and SNES years?  Quit with the ridiculous conspiracy theories.  If Nintendo were willing to give 3rd party developers what they wanted, and sales for it were good enough, they would be getting plenty of support.

The 16-bit era was before Sony came in and changed the structure of the industry........ for the worse.

Sonys tech was Nintendos vision for the industry, Sony just pushed the tech further and it caught the attention of the third parties.

Third parties were reluctant to 3D at first and PS1 had a terrible launch line up. But the simple architecture and industrial strategy Sony used to drive down prices got them the confidence of the third parties, many of whom hated Nintendo since before (EA). When N64 didn't really catch on, Sony proved that Nintendo wasn't invincible, and third parties felt they never had to go back. Also, N64 had better tech than PS1, PS1 only had three advantages, and that was polygon count, storage, and easiness of programming, still a game like Ocarina of Time would have been impossible on the PS1.

Also, Nintendo rightfully envisions games as toys, not an industrialized entertainement medium like Sony.

Nintendo may have been a toy/game company in the past but their vision was to become a competent tech company to push the capabilities of gaming. It's because of their moto of being a child/family oriented company that held them back. They hired Sony to increase the cd based upgrades for their console to battle Sega. Nintendo was working with Ken Kutaragi behind Sony's back to make the tech and when Sony caught him working some of the higher ups defended him against other board members when he was to be punished. Sony made a deal with Nintendo and continued with Kutaragi making them the prototype, but they also saw that kutaragi was doing most of the work for Nintendo and wanted a proper cut of the money from the work that was put in in legal writing. When Nintendo found out about Sony's demands as a company they left them hanging before Nintendo was to reveal the product at CES. They worked with Panasonic in a relationship that had very little yeild compared to their relationship with Kutaragi. The playstation rid the third parties of Nintendos grip on third parties. Sega couldn't break Nintendos monopoly on third parties and Sony did it with great tech, more ram and CD's. Nintendo lost a lot of third parties because of continued lack of working with third parties in the west. Sony and Microsoft work with game companies in tandem when making their consoles while putting their own twist on the product, Nintendo does the opposite forcing devs to work with them.