Should we Ban Guns?

[Michael-5]

mrstickball said:

 

You really have done no research into the matter, and rely on emotions and ad-hominem attacks on gun owners to prove things, rather than look at any data that would refute your argument, and/or provide solid proofs on gun owners.

"If no one had guns, there'd be less homicides" - Why do you believe this? Where is your proof? Worldwide, there is a correlation between fewer guns and more crimes. The most violent nations in the world - Russia, Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, and Colombia all have gun bans, and have very few gun owners.

What you fail to grasp is why people kill each other. It isn't caused by the tool. Its caused by the individual. There are alot of statistics out there that point to lack of education, economic inequality, and other such metrics that follow homicides in the world, and especially the US. The reality is that US homicide statistics vary from European levels in New Hampshire (which allows you to carry a concealed handgun with no permits), to Louisiana (New Orleans has a homicide rate that is about 20 times higher than the US average).

 

I don't understand the importation question or issue - the same argument applies to everyone. Look at Mexico. They have a gun ban, yet the cartels have more weapons than the military. It should show you how truly frivilous gun bans are in the face of criminals that want to commit crimes. You have to go afterthe source of crime, rather than the tools.

 

Finally, you still have mass murders in other countries. Look at Finland - the worst gun shooting in many years was perpetrated in Europe, rather than America. You also still have bombings that kill even more people than any mass shooting has, and those go on around the world as well.

If you read what I said, I did says Drugs > Guns for causes to high homicide rates. Columbia and Sierra Lione are essentially they drug Capitals of the world. Plus, I don't think Brazil or Mexico that drug free either.

While Mexico has strong gun regulations....they boarder some of the most violent countries, and I hate to burst your bubble, but a lot of weapons are smuggled into the country.

Russia, has a huge boarder, and there's always a war somewhere in Russia. It's an easy country to smuggle guns into. The war in Georgia alone was responsible to the "disappearance" of many firearms. Plus the fall of the Soviet Union, and.... yea, there are a lot of illegal guns in Russia.

That's my point with this thread, countries with a lot of guns, legal or illegal, have high homicide rates. You just mentioned several countries with high homicide rates, and ALL of them either have drug or gun control issues.



LOL you insult my post on being an attack on guns based on emotions, but the rest of your post is all about your feelings. I never mentioned how effective a gun ban would be, and obviously we need to remove illegal guns just as much as legal ones. I'm talking about a Gun Ban, all guns, legal or not. Why the heck do you need them?

However I 100% agree with you about education, and causes for homicides. From my experience in the few law classes I took, it's alcohol, drugs, and a lack of education.

Seriously, why are there so many smuggled guns in the USA?