Should we Ban Guns?

[Michael-5]

Kasz216 said:

chris_wing said:

Kasz216 said:

chris_wing said:

Kasz216 said:

All available credible science shows that banning guns will accomplish nothing, and in fact likely makes the problem worse.

So your own disbelief mostly seems to stem from your lack of researching and ignorance regarding the topic.

You'd find more scientific evidence to suggest banning videogames then you would guns.

It's the culture of glamorizing guns through movies, tv & yes games.  The difference with games is that you take an active role.

Maybe. Only issue i have with that is that the US exports it's culture pretty much everywhere so you'd expect there to be more of a crossover effect.

Like a Prince concert, it's not the same unless you're actually there. ;)

IDK, I hate singling out games, but the active role and habitualized shooting of people is something movies & TV don't provide.  This doesn't explain why the US has more violence then, say, Canada, but I already showed through MATH that it's not just because the US has more guns.  And it's not just games ether, it's something deeper in the US culture.

I'd base it on poverty, education and a lack of trust in the police.   As was shown in  a number of the other gun control threads... US violence levels and gun violence levels are right in the middle of average of the OCED.... when it's the rates for white people.   All of our "crime boom" appears to be in minorities, specifically African Americans and Hispanic people.

When you look at the most likely reasons for that, poverty, education levels and just in general a feeling that they can't count on the police to give them a fair shake seem to be the most likely cause.  

Fix Education by dealing with it sensibly so schools have to compete with each other to survive, and work on rehabilitating the police image in a number of the worst areas in the US and I think you'd go a long way to solving the problem.

This....I 100% back you up. Guns aren't the main problem, they are just a source to vent other problems. I believe out of all the developed countries, the USA has more people living below the poverty line per capita out of them all. A lot of this poverty came from a fire-arms race during the cold war, where countries like Canada put their revenue into building a strong economy, the USA/Russia used it to build weapons (guns included).

As for Education and a lack of trust in, not just the police, but the government, I also agree with you. I remember reading another thread about removing the federal education committee or something, and I was just amazing. Remove a Federal Education Facility, WOW.

What makes it worse in the USA is that the States themselves hold so much damn power. Criminal codes, and most organizations are under state jurisdiction. So when one state bans alcohol above a specific %, passes a law requiring clean energy, or what have it, the next one over might have completely opposite views.


I 100% agree with this. Ban guns or not, this should be done first.