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Aielyn said:
oniyide said:
Didnt say they ALL do much worst, just MOST of them as Im sure you know.

Tiger Woods, fair enough

I will scoof at Table Tennis, doesnt matter if Rockstar made it it still in the same category as Game Party and the like which brings me to my next point.

That entire list you just made, made my point for me. Every game there minus TR is geared toward the family, not going to call them casual, but you can see what types of games those are. Contrast that to the games that DONT sell better on Wii, Both Force Unleashes, just about all CODs, Madden, NBA, Bully, Need for Speed, etc. I know you say but "quality" but there are so much more Wiis out there than either HD console, it doesnt make sense. Surely some of those people dont have an HD console so whats stopping them from getting a game on Wii.

1. That's only the list of games that without a doubt did best on Wii. It doesn't include games where the Wii version outperformed one of the two others, or cases where the Wii version is only a small distance behind.

2. You consider Table Tennis, Tiger Woods, and Sonic to be "geared towards the family", yet Madden and NBA are magically "hardcore"? Really?

3. Yep, you're moving the goalposts again. You made the claim that Wii versions never outsell unless they're games like Just Dance. No rational person would consider Tomb Raider, Sonic, or Epic Mickey to be anything like those.

4. I guess that means that the only way for the 360 or PS3 to do better than the Wii is for the game to target a tiny sliver of the market. And they can only outperform the Wii when the Wii version is significantly worse than the other versions. So yes, "quality" - you can't rationally expect the Wii version to perform best when it's an inferior version in terms of gameplay and features (not graphics), even if the Wii had three times the install base.

5. Why is Golf considered a normal game, but Table Tennis is considered in the same category as Game Party? They're both sports, they're both a single kind of game (as opposed to the minigame collection of Game Party), and they're both sold in a way that targets enthusiasts.

6. What's Bully doing on that list? It was a port of a game from the previous generation. You're the one who laid the ground rules, here, not me.

To bring it back to one of the points again - yes, "quality". Tell me - if the PS3 and 360 versions of a game are high quality, but the Wii version is low quality, why would one expect the Wii version to sell well? Don't give me crap about "Wii-only owners should still be buying it" - there's higher quality games on the Wii that Wii owners are going to buy instead. Why buy CoD:WaW on the Wii when you can buy... well, pretty much any Nintendo title, or most of the real exclusives... and get a better-quality game? Why buy an inferior Madden when you can buy a superior Tiger Woods? Why buy Need for Speed when you can get a better experience from Excite Truck?

When you go back to the launch period, the truth becomes a lot more obvious. When Wii owners didn't have quality to choose from, they bought any game that would at least be acceptable. They bought CoD3 for the Wii, even though it didn't have ANY multiplayer (in an FPS, on a system that emphasises multiplayer), let alone online multiplayer - and they bought it almost twice as often as PS3 owners bought the PS3 version that had all of the features. The only reason that WaW was able to sell decently (and don't kid yourself, even when the PS3 and 360 versions are selling up around 8 million, selling just under 2 million is still a strong number of sales) was because it did add some multiplayer, and because the only FPSes it had to compete with were CoD3, Far Cry Vengeance (I forget, was it rated 2/10 or 3/10?), and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 (yay, PSP port). And lets not forget that the Wii version of WaW was still missing a lot of features, like the Zombie mode, for instance.

And of course, by the time Modern Warfare: Reflex edition came out, Wii owners had plenty of better-quality titles to prefer, and weren't really interested in getting a two year old port, at the same time that its direct sequel released on the other platforms. And STILL it managed quite respectable sales, despite still lacking features from the original.

So, where are you going to move the goalposts to, this time?

1. Well where are the games that sold better on Wii on either one of the consoles. And i mean better, not some small distance behind. GH, deBlob, Sonic, JD, Zumba come to mind and as ive stated those games are family geared. What about the ones that are not? SHow me

2. Never said Tiger was, stop putting words in my mouth. Sonic yes, Table Tennis, yes its a damn arcade sports game. Madden isnt hardcore or Fifa but those are sports simulators, the hell does that have to do with Sonic or Table Tennis, whats your point?

3. I said games geared to family, family friendly games, your putting words in my mouth again. The only game you mentioned that did not fit that was Tomb Raider, oh wow ONE game. Lets ignore that Underworld sold much worst than the HD versions.

4. Better in what way, sales. THats funny, PS2 version had worst versions of multiplat and there versions still blew the other ones away sales wise. But those versions are closer, so you might have something there. But that doesnt explain COD, which some people would swear is better the Wii version is better, but hell they are so tiny it dont matter. But then I would ask whose fault is that the those versions or worst? Not 3rd parties fault that they decided to go with such cheap hardware, they did the best they could with what they had. The only way for that not to have happened was to purposely gimp the HD versions, I bet some would have and had wished that happened.

5. Which Golf are you talking about? Far as im concenred there are two sports type arcade and simulation. I wonder which one does best on which system?

6. I put Bully there because the SHCOLARSHIP edition was also released the same time on 360, sure it is a port, but i used it to show that 360 gamers were clearly more interested in it, despite selling less than PS2 version.

What are these games that MWReflex had to compete with? Far as I know there were still NO competition in the FPS market for Wii. Doesnt matter if Mario was out, if you wanted to play a FPS what choices did you have? Most people just got another system.  ANd to sound blunt, if Wii owners were that starved for games they were buying games that sucked, then they were fools. I rather have 3 good games than 10 bad ones.