Kasz216 said:
GameOver22 said:
Aielyn said:
Crom said:
Again:
Since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes.
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Since you didn't respond to my previous post, where I challenged the 2/3 against and 2/3 for claim that you made, I'm going to challenge you again, here.
Prove it with actual, verifiable figures. It should all be publicly available. Otherwise, I'm just going to assume you got the claim from Breitbart's blog, and I have no reason to trust Breitbart's claims at all.
26 "major" civil rights votes is a challenge, though, so I'll be kind to you - find three such votes where Democrats opposed but Republicans supported, where Democrats weren't opposing because it wasn't strong enough. Given the percentages provided in your claim, 76% of such legislation (that's 19 or 20 out of 26) should satisfy this requirement, so it shouldn't be hard to find them.
Until you can back up your claim, I'm inclined to assume that it's just false propaganda on the part of certain conservative talking heads.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are close to that given the southern contingent in Democratic party......I am kind of interested in what these major civil rights votes are.....especially considering the civil rights movement can be conceptualized kind of broadly to include women's rights as well......and there's also the problem of what "major" really means. Because of the committee system in Congress, which was largely controlled by senior Democratic members, some of which were southern racists, the bills that even made it out of committee were incredibly watered down and had little significant effect. This is why the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is seen as being such a landmark acheivement.
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Really I can think of quite a few that likely fit the bill, but such info is likely buried in specific books.
Anti-lynching laws come to mind for example, that was a big issue for Roosevelt.
The 1875 Civil Rights act is another... it was so unpopular it got the Republicans kicked out of Office.
I've read before that the 14th and 15th ammendments didn't have a single democratic vote for them. Though Wikipedia doesn't mention voting by party at all... and in general, google turns up nothing... except claims that no democrat voted for it.
It's funny. Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights bill that was largely needed because he lead the way in weakening the 1957 bill.
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Yeah, it is kind of difficult to find sources on this stuff. He did mention since 1933, so the 14th/15th amendment and 1875 Civil Rights Act wouldn't be included. I wouldn't be surprised if no Democrats voted for them back then.....it was a very different electoral climate.
Was an anti-lynching ever passed or did it even come to the floor in Congress? Just a quick glance at stuff, and it seems these efforts were even stalled/watered down in the committee system or filibustered in the Senate. I really thinks its important to emphasize how difficult it was to get anything done on civil rights during this time-period. You had a bunch of southern Democrats with seniority sitting on these committees or filibustering the legislation. This made it incredibly difficult to get anything done. Most presidents, even FDR, backed down on these issues to preserve political capital for other efforts, such as the New Deal program.
