Anyone who thinks the 64/cube failed due to 1st party software is...

[happydolphin]

RazorDragon said:

Immortal said:
This is one of those times when the lack of a definition for "casual" really hurts. Not casual, but Pokemon? Not casual, but NSMB? Not casual, but Wii Sports?

If those games aren't casual, I don't know what is.

His general point is also wrong, though. SMB4 would've outsold SM64. Some of the decline is attributable to third parties, but the rest is because Nintendo lowered its own standards as well. Probably mostly third parties, though.

Pokemon is casual? Sorry man, that took all the credibility out of your post.

It's come to the point where anything that has mass-success is a casual game.

That's what I'm trying to show people, that the premice is completely off-line with reality.