timmah said:
dsgrue3 said:
timmah said:
dsgrue3 said:
Once again, it does not matter how God views time. What matters is that all outcomes are known which is predetermination. What is so hard to grasp here? Time travel has nothing to do with God.
There are things that are no longer speculation in terms of time - 1) You don't move backward. 2) Gravity does indeed bend time - relativity 3) It is absolutely possible to travel through it forward (we do it every day).
Now tell me if you can choose A or C.
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Time travel would be the best humanly understandable analogy to a God who is theoretically outside of time and views time from a non-fixed perspective. If you actually considered the time traveler analogy (which is a core part of the axiom I presented), what I'm saying makes sense.
Obviously, I could chose A or C, I just did not in this scenario. The fact that God observed the choice does not mean I did not make the choice. He didn't make me choose it, I chose it, he observed. The fact that this choice is in the past, present, or future would have no bearing to an observer with a non-fixed perspective of time in either the time traveler analogy, or the frozen river analogy of time.
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You make absolutely no sense. You cannot choose A or C in this scenario because it is already known that you WILL choose B, the only variable is WHEN.
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Please answer this simple question, you never did. If you were to (theoretically) travel into the future and witness a choice being made, then travel back to the present, does that automatically nullify the free-will aspect of the choice that you witnessed in this specific scenario?
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1) There isn't a single question mark in your previous response.
2) I already answered that question by saying it isn't applicable. God knows all, no time travel necessary. But, no it wouldn't nullify the free will aspect of that particular scenario which does not apply.
No need to indulge in any time travel here. You have a deterministic path because every outcome is known from birth until death. You cannot deviate from this path. Do you agree?
