dsgrue3 said:
timmah said:
dsgrue3 said:
timmah said:
dsgrue3 said:
?????
-birth------------------event a -> choices ->outcome-----------event b -> choices -> outcome --------------death
Show me where on this timeline is a choice?
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Attempting to theorize perspective & knowledge as it would exist outside the constraints of time using only language & reasoning created from within the perspective & constraints of time is fairly difficult, which is why the best you're going to get is limited understanding and analogies.
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Not relevant. Stop retarding God. He's all-knowing, it doesn't matter how he perceives information just that he has every single possible bit of information. You're saying God cannot differentiate time or order, which is completely stupid.
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Not even close to what I'm saying, especially if you look at the 'frozen river' analogy. One standing outside the river would see and certainly be able to differentiate points in the river all at once ('time' as we know it), while one inside the flow of the river would only be experiencing the point where they currently are. A different perspective does not mean the inability to determine time and order.
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Then you just admitted pre-knowledge.
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Pre-knowledge (passive observation) =/= pre-determination (active 'forcing' of choices).
