Why do some believe these characteristics of a Creator?

[dsgrue3]

happydolphin said:

dsgrue3 said:

Are you even reading my responses? This is the third time I'm saying this now: time is not relevant.

There are a cluster of events with their known outcomes, order isn't relevant. Time isn't relevant. Predeterminism Preknowledge, it's the same damn thing. Determined prior to the event itself, and as everything is known prior to the Universe, all events and outcomes are already known.

You're basically arguing that God isn't omniscient, which is what I'm getting at. You're saying the way he sees events is different because it doesn't include time, but you're retarding God by saying that and neglecting to address the fact that even time independent, God would be able to associate outcomes with choices.

Edit: @Spurge, Oh you!

@bold. What he's saying is that pre or pro or tra or mentre or whatever, it means nothing to a God who is neither here nor there.......

Suggesting that God doesn't have knowledge of time as it relates to events is silly. You're suggesting an all-knowing being does not know something. Can't you see how completely absurd that is?