dsgrue3 said:
timmah said:
dsgrue3 said:
happydolphin said:
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So is God omniscient, or do humans have free will? Can't have both.
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It's both. He knows everything that will happen, and also gave us the will to choose. To me it's possible to have both since here we are. Free to choose our own destinies, and he knows it all from the very beginning. He made us, without using his omniscience, he just made us.
It is my belief that God can temporarily shut off any of his powers at will. On creation, it was his omniscience. To me that's part of him being all-powerful.
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You cannot have both. Those are direct contradictions. Choose one.
Example:
There are 3 Doors, "A", "B", "C" - you see choice. God knows the outcome already, thus nullifying choice. You can't choose anything else as it's already been determined which choice you will make. You cannot deviate from this path because it is already known.
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I knew that if you saw this thread, you would enter into a debate in this thread. This does not nullify your choice to enter this debate. :P
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Lol, I like it but you and I know that simply isn't the same thing. =D
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You're also making a faulty argument if indeed God lives outside the constraints of time. Faulty because your argument is posed from a perspective of living inside and being limited by the dimension of time, that perspective and its resulting argument could not apply to a being that is not constrained by time, which is your premise. If to God, time is beginning, in progreess, and finished all at the same time, looking ahead to see what you choose to do (from outside of time) does not by definition nullify the choice you made from your perpective inside the constraints of time, it simply observes that choice.
