| Mr Khan said: I did not say antebellum, either. Really, the conditions i'm thinking of are early 20th century, mostly because i've been reading "Fall of Giants" in large chunks lately; Jim Crow, laws hindering reproductive rights, further enshrinement of Christian traditions at the expense of others, criminalization of homosexual activity, a total ban on teaching evolution in public schools, could you honestly say some or all of these things are good, and that they would not happen if some states got their way? |
Oh, so the South has progressed since the Civil War, it just hasn't progressed beyond the 1920s? Gotcha.
But yeah. I guess that, in a world where Mississippi votes down a personhood amendment, I am not particularly fearful of some kind of Saudi Alabama arising should our enlightened overlords ever avert their all-seeing gaze for a moment. To whatever degree red states and blue states do actually behave like the caricatures that their opponents make them out to be, I think it's more to say "fuck you" to the other side in the kulturkampf as anything else. Separation and self-determination would be more likely to make them grow the fuck up and act like adults rather than to continue down the path of polarization just to spite their equally idiotic opponents.
| Mr Khan said: Progress can be objectively measured as the optimization of human happiness. |
So Colombia is the most progressive country in the world?
| Mr Khan said: Also, a lot of the would-be secessionist states are net takers of Federal money. America's balance-sheet would likely be better off with them gone, not the other way around. |
"I can't let you leave. But don't worry, it's for your own good."
Completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of concern trolling. That's a problem for seceders, not imperialists.
