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Kresnik said:
JTurner82 said:

That's not totally true; if the costs for ports are correct, then sales of about 50k would make a profit of 1.5 million dollars.  And considering that Black Ops II, Assassin's Creed III, and even Batman Arkham City all crossed the 100k mark, I'm sure all three have made their money back.  So that's hardly tanking.  Plus they are showing legs.

Now Ninja Gaiden III I can see it having problems, but that game was already badly received to begin with, and it would take time for a franchise like NG to be repaired.


I'm not trying to start a whole thing, because I'm actually quite optimistic about third-party prospects on Wii-U, but I just want to point out that your maths is... off.  I've seen a couple of people projecting high profits from low sales from Wii-U ports.  In actuality there would likely still be profits from 50k sales, but it's nowhere near $1.5 million.

Using Ubisoft's figure for porting and Barozi's pie chart for breakdown of a $60 game, I had them making $400,000 from a game selling 60k copies - breakdown is here if you're interested.  Of course, that's assuming that every port cost $1.2 million.  I'd question that for a blockbuster title like Assassin's Creed 3, I find it a much more likely figure for something like Just Dance 4, but Ubisoft's number is all we have to go on for the time being.

Also, I don't mean to rub more salt into the wound, but according to November NPD numbers we have Assassin's Creed overtracked by at a few thousand here (if you check it against our database, we have it at something like 7th best-selling Wii-U game in USA for November, but NPD doesn't even have it in the top 10). So that one still has a little way to go to crack 100k :P

But all of this is moot.  I've said before and I'll say it again - late ports, or even just ports like AC3 & BO2 should never have been expected to be big sellers.  Aside from a dedicated few who will drop the money on a new console to play a touch-screen enabled version, the market for these multi-plats just isn't there yet.  Give Nintendo some time to build up the installbase from their own games, get Wii-U multi-plats releasing on the exact same day & date and then assess how they're doing.



Hmmmm.... So I guess I was a bit mistaken in my math estimates.  Still, I'd say that for ports, AC3 and BO2 did OK sales for themselves.  At least they didn't fail like Mass Effect 3 did.