If you are against gay marriage, explain why without mentioning religion

[Michael-5]

Tom3k said:

Michael-5 said:

Tom3k said:

 

Homsexuality is not a "defect" as you so bluntly put it. There isn't a gay gene, if it were it would have been probably discovered by now. The most recent epigenetic studies link homosexuality with epi-marks, and "different" expression of genes.

Stupidity is a disorder as well. Just to point the obvioius...

From GENETIC point of view as you so boldly put it there Homosexuality doesn't prevent reproduction! 

I know there isn't a gay gene, I said that above. If there were a gene for homosexuality, it wouldn't be a defect, it would be a gene.

Stupidity is only a disorder if you are born with some retarding mutation. You can become dumb by drinking paint, you can't become homosexual, or bipolar no matter how hard you try. There is an important distinction.

Homosexuality doesn't prevent reproduction? You need two different genders to reproduce, if people are not interested oposite genders, then there is no reproduction

Please don't bring anthropology into discussion of genomics. Because you said "However from a genetics point of view, homosexuality is disfunctional. There is no arguement here, people are designed to reproduce sexually, if we were designed to be homosexuals, we would all have some sort of hermaphedite system in us.".

As I stated above homosexuality doesn't pervent reporuction. Am I infertile because I'm gay? Sudenly I started shooting blanks? Stop talking rubbish. As a gay person myself that has MANY gay freinds, I can asure you that you would be surprised by sheer number of them that actually reproduced (more than once if I may add). 

 

For those that claim that homosexuality is a "condition", "disorder", "unnatural"... or whatnot. Get off your high horse! As a "phenomenon" that is observed in nature from a simple guppy fish to mammals it's obviously very natural and common thing... And out of all the animals that inhabit this planet the only animal that has "issues" with homosexuality or homsexuals is the one that claims to be "smartest" of them all. But in end it's just one poisoned by "religious donctrine's" and their narrow minded views of nature and humanity.

It's not Anthropology, it's Biology. Homosexuality isn't genetic, it's a random mutation. Random mutations, like schizophrenea or homosexuality are not normal mutations, do not contribute to the fitness of a species, and overall are not what the species was designed for.

Homosexuality does prevent reproduction. If you're fertile, but do not have the means to procreate, then you can't procreate can you? This is no different from a man who has no penis (say because of an accident). Just because you got sperm in the sack doesn't mean you can procreate. Even if the guy forced himself to procreate, there is still a mental barrier which reduces reproductive success.

How is homosexuality not a disorder? Is schizophrenea not a disorder? They are both random mutations which result in abnormal behaviours in the brain.

Out of all the animals in the world, only one species has an issue with bi polar, rape, schizophrenea, etc. Just because it happens naturally, doesn't mean it's normal. Rape is natural, schizophrenea is natural, and has a biological source like homosexuality. Are you going to argue those things are normal? We should accept rape and crazy's, and not treat them?