If you are against gay marriage, explain why without mentioning religion

[Michael-5]

Jay520 said:

Michael-5 said:

1. I'm against the condition, not the individual. It's not the individuals fault that he or she is gay, but I do think that looking for a cure would be beneficial towards society.

I am against unsafe sex, but that's not an act limited to homosexuals. I only mentioned this because I was listing reasons why homosexuality does affect non homosexuals in a negative way, and statistically homosexuals do have a higher occurance of STD's then straight people.

2. Like I said above, homosexuals themselves should have the option to be "cured" and become heterosexuals. The fact that they can't at this stage in medical advancement means that we have a condition, which negatively affects some individuals, and like every medical condition we should look for a cure.

Do you not care about homosexuals who wish to have a monogamous marriage and produce a child using their own genetic material? Do you not want people who wish to live heterosexual lives to have that choice?

3. Actually most scientists do agree that homosexuality is caused by some biological process before birth. The difference is where. Some scientists think it's a genetic mutation, so think it's an error during early stages in the uterus.

I have yet to read an article relating homosexuality to social  and psychological environment, and I'm sure if you ask any gay person, they didn't become gay. You're born this way.

By against the condition, I am looking at homosexuality as a disorder, like down syndrome. I have no problem with down syndrome people, I'm very nice to them, but I want to look for a cure. Same with homosexuality. It's a condition (illness, defect, disorder, whatever it is), which can be cured, and I think we should look for a cure to give homosexuals the option of becoming heterosexuals. Like we both agree, it's a condition which really doesn't affect the way people live in a negative or harmful way, so there is no reason to force this cure upon people, but there should be an option for those who wish to be heterosexual in order to have a family, or escape opression.

I've already answered your question about finding a gay "cure." No point in repeatedly posting it.

Then you should stop saying you're against homosexuality. It sounds much worse than saying you wish there was a cure for homosexuality - which itself still sounds pretty bad.

There's still a huge controversial Nature vs Nurture debate about homosexuality. As with many controversial debates, the majority may not be right. And if no party has proof, there's no reason to assume anyone is right just yet. You can have your own intuition and hunches, but at least acknowledges that they're just your own opinion. 

1. Could you refresh what you said about your opinions? I've been discussing this matter with half a dozen people.

2. I am against homosexuality. According to scientist and psychiatrists, most beleive it's a biological defection. At some people point before people are born, maybe even before they are even complete zygotes, some mutation occurs and makes them homosexual. This is why homosexuality affects random individuals, no differently from schizophenea.

I think looking for a cure for any biological disorder is important. Homosexuallity isn't life devastating like bi polar is, nor is it life threatening like cancer, but it's something and if people want to put money into finding a cure I'm all for it.

3. You are correct, there is still a debate among nature vs. nurture. Either way there is still a cure. With a biological defect, it would be fixable by drugs and therapy. With a Psychological defect, it would also be fixable by drugs and therapy. The difference is the amount of drugs (obviously a lot more for a biological source) and the amount of therapy (more for psychological sources). Either way, why shouldn't we look for a cure for a disorder, just because it's less harmful then others?

Homo's have a right to be Hetero if it was possible, and I'm sure many would want to be.