If you are against gay marriage, explain why without mentioning religion

[Michael-5]

nuckles87 said:

Michael-5 said:

For someone whose volunteered in sex clinics and mental health centers (CAMH in Canada), I'm againt homosexuality because it is a psychological disorder classified as "Sexual Orientation Disturbance" in the DSG III "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

It was reclassified as "Sexual disorder not otherwise specified" in 1987 due to popitical reasons (Gay people were being killed in the USA for being Gay, while the act of homosexuallity is not dangerous outside of the spreading of STD's). I'm not sure if it was ever removed entirely.

 

However Gay Marriage, I'm fine with. We have no cure for homosexuality, we don't even know the cause of it, and most treatments supress all sexual urges, not just homosexual ones (however that is begining to change). Since we have no cure for a non harmful psychological illness, then why should gay people be refused marriage? We might not find a cure for 50 more years, and that's longer then most marriages.

Also because it's a non-threating or violoent, and livable sexual disorder, if a cure were to ever become invented, it's the homosexuals choice to use it or not. So, if a cure comes up in 10 years, there is no reason why gay marriages should not be honored.

 

So Homosexuality, I'm against, it's a disorder, simple as that.

Homosexual behavior, I am indifferent to, however I do want to push safe sex between these people because not all homosexuals are purely homosexual, and STD's can spread to the heterosexual community.

Gay Marriage, I'm all for, keeps the STD's isolated LOL. No, they can do what they like.

Homosexuality is not a mental disorder:

Is homosexuality a mental disorder?

No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder.

http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

And heterosexuals get plenty of STDs to. It's not just a gay thing:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6893897

Psychopathology is not the only straind of mental disorders. If you read the DSM, it's actually layered in terms of types and seriousness of disorders. Psychopathic disorders are disorders which make individuals anti social, emotionally shallow, lack empathy and often distrubed, homosexuals are not anti-social, nor are they disturned, and if they are getting married I'm sure they still have stong emotions.

Schizophrenia has been documented for thousands of years in human history. It's an natural chemical imbalance which affects 1% of the population at random. It's natural, beleived to be an error in gene copying, it's been a part of many cultures and histories, but is it normal? Far from it. The only difference from this illness and homosexuality is that this illness is dangerous, and it seriously retards the functions of a brain, homosexuality is not dangerous, and doesn't affect cognative decision making.

Many psychological disorders are non harmful to others. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is for example always obsesing about having things done a specific way. Most people are mildly obsessive comopulsive, but does alligning all the orange juice bottles in the fridge to face forward hurt anyone? Nope. Still a disorder.

Also, Homosexuals have a higher chance of carrying and transmitting STD's because often times homosexual behavior is performed without protection. Of course heterosexuals have STD's as well, my arguement was that if anything homosexuallity harms the fitness of the human species by spreading STD's. Heterosexuals can of course spread STD's, but statistically homosexuals and especially bisexuals are more often found carrying them.