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i honestly think the numbers are undertracked worldwid. MS has 360 numbers at 70 million shipped by spetember. if current numbers are true then MS shipped abot 4.5~5 million in Q4 and having about 800K~1.3M on shelves. last year MS shipped 8 million, your really saying it could fall from 8 Million to 4.5/5 million shipped? same concept goes for the PS3 and their 70M shipped at the beginning of novermber. so until offical shipments from MS/Sony come out we cant really judge