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J_Allard said:
iceland said:
"You know that nowhere in my post did it say sales alone are not an accomplishment"

okay

"Halo 4 burning through copies quicker than GT5 at launch is some sort of accomplishment. It isn't."

Because this totally doesn't imply that. You've said Halo 4 selling more at launch than GT5 isn't an accomplishment, correct? Back to the original post I replied to, you implied that Halo is selling better than GT because Shooters are mainstream this gen. I argued that Halo was always selling even when RPGs were mainstream. I also made the point that Killzone (and many shooters may I add) should've sold better by that logic. You then sidestep by switching the argument saying it was too soon to compare. I said there's nothing wrong with comparing games that are in the process of selling (I mean this is a sales site). But hey guess I fail at reading comprehension. :)

Again.. are you actually reading the posts? It's not hard. Halo 4 sold nearly 4 million copies in week one. Looking purely at sales, that's mighty impressive. Comparing it to sales of a sim racer like GT5.. yawn. That's not impressive. Nowhere did I say Halo 4's sales are not impressive. I said outselling GT5's pace is not impressive. They are two separate things.

Regarding Killzone, who gives a **** about Killzone?  Are you comparing the market power of Halo to Killzone? Are you denying that shooters are more popular than sim racers? I mentioned shooters because Halo 4 is, in fact, a shooter. Nowhere did I imply that every single shooter should sell 9 million copies.

Your guess seems spot on.

That's actually what is was talking about... I believe it's still impressive. That's where my "sales is sales" line came from. And my first rebuttal in my last reply, how am I not reading your posts correctly? Have you thought maybe it's the other way around? And again I've provided examples on why I think it's a fair comparision.


And nowhere did I say that or even implied that, just giving examples to back up my opinion. Don't know where you got 9 million from, just said sold better along with many other shooters. Shooters are no doubt more popular this gen, but as I said before with examples I believe this had little to no effect on the Halo franchise. I respect your opinion, but obviously nothing is going to change with this back n forth, only thing is that I don't have to resort to insults. :)