The Official Song of Ice and Fire Thread [UNMARKED SPOILERS FOR ALL BOOKS]

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Trunkin said:

noname2200 said:

Trunkin said:

 I've always found it strange that in a series such as ASOIF where there is supposedly no black and white...

There's plenty of black and white in the series. Especially black. What makes you think otherwise?

I phrased that pretty poorly. What I meant was that no character or family in the series is purely black or purely white, just different shades of gray. Although, now that I think about it, Joffrey and Ramsay kind of poke a hole in that assumption.

Yeah, I'd argue that some characters are pretty much all of one or the other. Ramsay is the obvious example of black, but there's not much redeeming Gregor or the slavers in Essos either. I also have a hard time seeing much good in Caster or Walder Frey. Conversely, I'd argue that Ned and Jon in particular are pretty "white": their failings come in the area of competence (Ned) or inexperience (Jon) rather than moral failings. Brienne and especially Sam fall under this spectrum too, in my opinion.