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i think people forget that nintendo gave up on the gamers market, they admitted they were looking for a different market with wii and they found it. the only problem is IMO that market is not the kind market you can rely on, its not a market like the 360/ps3/apple where you upgrade the tech, and people will be all over it, its a market where you have to creat something totaly unique and captivating and that market is a hit or miss, mostly miss though.