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SvennoJ said:
Michael-5 said:

but Exstacy is huge here, and that also isn't okay

To be honest, I think Marijuanna should be legalized, and the money made on taxation should be used to fight a war on exstacy, and be used to improve rehabilitation programs such as CAMH (Center for Adiction and Metal Health). So done right, legalizing this drug which over 50% of high school students have used already, would be better. Plus the weed will be cleaner, no added "Angel Dust" or anything.

What do you have against xtc? It's been a long time since I used it, and I did do my research at the time and had a good clean source.
It's basically a therapy drug that lets you more easily connect with other people next to a general feeling of joy.
It helped me open up at the time and break down some of the walls I had put up around me. And it was a lot of fun during raves ofcourse.
It is not addictive and it starts being less effective if used a couple times after another. For best effect you have to wait a month in between at least.

Like anything there are negatives that can hit hard if you're not prepared. Don't forget to drink fluids and make sure you don't have to do anything the next day as you likely won't sleep most of the night, plus your mood will swing in the opposire direction for the next day.

I don't see a problem with legalized xtc with the right information attached. The biggest problem is that the illegal version is usually cut with other drugs or contains half finished product.

Cannabis should be legalized first anyway. Get some guidelines on THC concentration and a better distribution form then burning smoke. Inhaling is still the best way as the effects are almost instant, much better then alcohol to gage when you've had enough.
The only problem I see is that combining alcohol with cannabis is not a good thing, hence 'coffeeshops' in Amsterdam don't serve alcohol. Allowing 'coffeeshops' for people to enjoy that form of entertainement is better then teenagers experimenting with both at parties. Educate instead of condemn.

For perscription use, I think anything is fine. If Exstacy helps anxious people open up, then make it a perscription for anxious or shy people.

For recreational use, it's easily abbused. I know tons of people who took exstacy and kept taking it, with higher and higher doses, and then moved on to harder drugs. Like you said it hits you less hard if you take it too frequently.

To be honest, it's really not the exstacy that bothers me. There are some side effects, but like you said if you drink lots of fluids and prepare for it you will be fine. Some people like yourself who take it once in a while, I don't see harm in. It's the people who take it regularly which I worry for.

What really bugs me about exstacy is the stuff they add to it. Viagra, Speed, Meth, Codene. Different colour pills do different things.

"With the right information attached" lol! Prescription substance abuse is just as big of a problem, if not bigger, then restricted substance abuse here in Canada. People will abuse exstacy, and that's the problem. People who become alcoholics, or addicted to drugs, don't do it recreationally, or just ocassionally. They do it to get f***ed, and that's why we ban drugs. Hell if people were careful, they would all take heroine in balloons, and be careful to the exact disage, but they don't. Exstacy is less extreme, but still dangerous to many (not all).

The only analogy I could make to this is speeding. Maybe 5% of the population is capable of travelling 200km/h without issue, but the other 95% are not. We make laws for everyone, not just the few who are capable of controlling themselves. How do we judge if your capable of controlling yourself? Do we give you a psych test before you fill a prescription like we do for gun licences? That doesn't catch everyone.

I dunno how much you know about weed, but you can buy yourself something called a vaporizer. It's essentially a pot with a plastic bag on top. Anyhow, you vaporize the thc in the weed, and you get about twice as high without all the negatives of smoke. You're just inhaling humid air with weed in it.

I agree with you about Holland.

BTW I took a few classes in law, and I learned a really good reason why weed is banned. Laws are passed based on morals, and it's very difficult to pass a law which debans a banned substance. This is because people are trained to believe that this substance is bad. However if enough people vote for it, laws can be changed. The issue is, the bulk of out population are becoming senior citizens, and these people did not grow up with weed being acceptable like it is now. I bet in time, weed will become legal. It's already decriminalized in many countries/US states. That's a start.



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