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[Michael-5]

Kasz216 said:

Michael-5 said:

Your post is short, of course I read it. I don;t think you read mine when you keep bringing up population despite my counter which I have repeated now.

Okay USA is 10 times larger, there have been more then a couple dozen shootings in the USA. Why hasn't there been 1 in Canada? I don't think there ever will be one unless an American crosses the border with a gun and carries one out.

I think there are ways to prevent instances of mass murders/school shootings. You may not be able to stop them once their mind is set, but improving the way people grow up, teaching kids at a young age to respect each other, would definatly help.

LOL home-made bombs, man you guys are really messed up! I think it would be harder to kill with a home made explosive then a gun, most kids are pretty dumb.

However we clearly agree on something. You need to have more preventive means performed to reduce homicide rates. You need more programs teaching young kids, 6 year olds, to respect others and to teach them morals.

Well again, statistically a couple dozen isn't really enough to draw conclusions statistically.  If 24 happened in the US, that means you'd expect a whole 2 to happen in Canada at that time period.   3 happens suddenly it's waaay to any.   1 and suddenly it's way to less.

Outide which, there was a School shooting right Columbine in 1999 if your talking just kids.  If your talking other mass murders, there  is the Dawson College one and a few others.

 

Teaching morals and to respect others is unlikely to stop mass shootings as mass shootings stem more often then not from people with psycopathic brain patterns.  Though this has been hard to completely confirm because so many of these people kill themselves.

Maybe, but I was also looking at some of statistics, and I think that graph is a bit biased. First of all, USA doesn't have the highest homicide rate, just the highest among developed countries. Countries in central America like Columbia, or wartorn regions in Africa like Sierra Leone have the highest homicide rate. However they also are the sources of drugs and blood diamonds in the USA. If you made that exact same graph using only developed countries, I bet you there will be a correlation. Not a huge one, people in USA are pretty desensitized to guns, but I bet you it would be significant.

Anyway I follow your logic, If 24 shootings happened in USA about 2.4 should happen in Canada. However 0 have happened. It's not a matter of population, we just don't have messed up kids shooting guns. Even people with psychological issues in Canada, they get identified early, and go to institutions or get treated long before they can snap. Even if they do snap, because of the tests you have to pass to get a gun licence, most of these people probably could never find one. We just don't have shootings because we can manage to keep guns away from people who aren't law abiding. It only takes 1 in 100,000, but you guys seem unable to catch them. How come we can?

I agree banning hand guns doesn't solve this issue, you do need to support individuals with mental illness. 1% of all people are schizophrenic, and you really need to be able to identify these people before their illness matures (Usually between 18-24). That plus reduce poverty, USA's poverty rate is 60% higher then Canada's (15% vs. 9), I'm sure that makes a huge difference. Also drug control, I mean I never even heard of meth until I drove to denver and saw advertizing against it, we just don't have these issues in such extreme quantities in Canada, and I bet they are all reasons why homicide rates are lower here.

BTW You realize there was a shooting in Pennsylvania just a month back at a kindergarden school? 26 dead? Every freaken year you guys have a mass shooting.

To stop these shootings, you do need to teach people morals AND teach teachers how to identify students which might have mental issues. People aren't born schizophrenic, it develops, and it develops in about 1% the general population, regardless of genes. You need institutions to help rehabilitate these people, help them before they break down and question reality.

There are a whole bunch of things you can do. Back to the point at hand, Hand Guns are still pointless, and if you don't have the infrastructure to deal with people like this, I'd rather have stricter gun regulations, like those here or in Japan.