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Kasz216 said:
Michael-5 said:
Kasz216 said:
 

 

You keep jumping topics.

Mass shootings, like those in columbine and general homicides have very different factors.

Mass shootings as best as anyone can tell are largely due to mental illness. (very few people like this are caught alive so research is somewhat untested)   Hence population would matter.

Homicides, generally are a combination of "Honor" culuture,  individualism, poverty, crime, mental issues and a number of other factors.  Hence population wold be a very small factor.

I agree that mass shootings are more influenced my psychological and sociological factors, but stronger gun control could reduce the frequency of occurance.

Also why does population matter? Like I said before Toronto is a neighboring city to Manhattan with a similar population and a homicide rate about 5-10% as large. Tokyo, and Soel, two of the largest cities in the world, have two of the smallest homicide rates. USA and China are not the only countires in the world with dense cities and high population.

So explain how population is at all a factor.

Anyway it doesn't matter, all 3 of us agree that more guns are either not correlated with increased homicide rates, or have a small correlation and things like poverty, racism, drugs and alcohol abuse (especiall this one), mental illness, and psychological/social stress are the underlying causes oh homicide. From the few courses I took in Law in Canada, I can tell you that nearly all of our homicides are incluenced by alcohol abuse.

P.S. Drugs/Alcohol abuse probably is the #1 factor. Nevada has the highest Violent Crime rate by nearly double compared to all other US states and when you look up the countries with the highest homicide rates, you get a lot of central/south American countries like Columbia.


I don't think you read my post completely.   That mass shootings are caused by mental problems means that the biggest contributor would be population.  The US is 10 times larger then Canada.   So all things equal, you would expect it to happen in th US more.

If the US had annual school shootings.  All Canada would need is one a decade to be "even" in occurence rate. 

I don't think anything is going to stop someone who wants to kill multipe people from doing it.

Making it harder to get guns, at best would make it so they just made some homemade explosives.   (Though policy wise speaking, you won't get that in the US.  If I didn't care if there was a crime attached to it, i bet I could get a gun today for 50 dollars or cheaper.)

Your post is short, of course I read it. I don;t think you read mine when you keep bringing up population despite my counter which I have repeated now.

Okay USA is 10 times larger, there have been more then a couple dozen shootings in the USA. Why hasn't there been 1 in Canada? I don't think there ever will be one unless an American crosses the border with a gun and carries one out.

I think there are ways to prevent instances of mass murders/school shootings. You may not be able to stop them once their mind is set, but improving the way people grow up, teaching kids at a young age to respect each other, would definatly help.

LOL home-made bombs, man you guys are really messed up! I think it would be harder to kill with a home made explosive then a gun, most kids are pretty dumb.

However we clearly agree on something. You need to have more preventive means performed to reduce homicide rates. You need more programs teaching young kids, 6 year olds, to respect others and to teach them morals.



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