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Kasz216 said:

Michael-5 said:

Kasz216 said:

Michael-5 said:

 

 

B) Ok, so you clearly don't have any scientific understanding background.  A "Significant correlation" is just that... one that is significant... as in scientifically proveable.  If a correlation is not significant that means that there is no proof, and it could just be there due to background data. 

Also... Singapore does not ban guns.

A) I assume you agree with my logic here.

B) I got my degree in Astrophysics...LOL Resorting to insult is indication of an inability to conjure up a more intelligent response.

Singapore doesn't ban guns, but they are heavily restricted.

Again, I agree that guns aren't the only reason why homicide rates are so high in USA (but it's a big factor in states like Nevada). I took a few classes in Law and I know that most homicides are alcohol influenced. Very few are planned out in advance, and the gun massecures are usually a result of psychological disorders. I know that homicide rates are more strongly affected by literacy rates and poverty, but I still see no reason why handguns should be legal. I also think the minimum age to own a rifle should be higher, every time I think about Virginia tech, it's a tragedy.

A Rifle does everything a handgun can do, and more. Plus it's difficult to conceil, so you don't have to worry about someone shooting you publicly as much.

A) No I just skipped it because you didn't know what significant correlation meant.

 

A) But you have no counter?

A) No i did two actually, I put it there in an edit.   What you were talking about is an ancedote.  A common saying here is "Data is not the plural of anecdote."   That said anecdotally there are tons of places where people leave their doors unlocked.  Generally they are small towns where gun ownership is very high.

B) The primary killing tool in America is actually a car... I think anyway.  I seem to recall something passing it recently. (not guns though)

I don't actually see your correlation here.  What do student shootings, often with rifles or shotguns, have to do with highschool shootings.... espiecally when you consider the fact that students legally can't own these guns?  

 

Additionally, one factor your overlooking is population...

A) From my experience traveling the USA, that's not true. It's actually these small towns with 8 American Flags on each house and high gun ownership populations I found that most people have an unwelcoming personality, and locked doors. Suburbs, like those on Long Island were more likely to have door unlocked, but this is just my experience.

In Canada, large city or small, people still leave their doors unlocked. If anything, large cities have more unlocked doors since you're always so close to home.

But your right, anecdotes =/= Data. I was just making a correlation.

B) Are Cars used in homicides or accidental deaths? Regardless Handguns are up there, not Rifles, not shotguns. Control the guns more likely to be apart of violent crimes, that's all I'm saying.

My point is stonger gun control = lower homicide rates. If these kids didn't have guns there would be no school shootings, or at least not by students.


Your point on population, am I ignoring it? Manhattans Population is only 30% larger then Toronto's, yet the Homicide rate is about 2,500%-3,000% Greater. I mentioned Korea and Japan as places with the lowest homicide rates in the world, and guess what? Tokyo is the largest city in the world with 18 million people, and Soel is up there too with I believe 16 million. That's 225% and 200% the population of Manhattan respectively and the homicide rate is lower. Don't argue population density either cause Tokyo has one of the highest Population Densities there, and Toronto is more Dense then a lot of major US cities. In fact Toronto is the 5th largest city in North America, so :P