The Wii U didn't meet our expectations. Is it a flop?

[Jay520]

the_dengle said:

Jay520 said:

I'm not going after the Wii U as I haven't called the Wii U a flop. I'm merely asking if those people still have the same definition of flop, or if they've changed their methodology as it fits their agenda. The only people that could be going after the Wii U are people who think expectations determine a game flopping.

Yes, we've had a thread discussing the definition of "flop" but it was not convincing. This thread is much more convincing - the best way to expose broken logic is to use that logic against the user. I believe this is the most effective way to convince someone that they're wrong.

Fair enough, but if you don't mind my saying so, I think a lot of the 'intended audience' is missing the point and just sees this as another Wii U doom thread. What we're getting here is a lot of people defending the Wii U and saying it's not a flop, not people apologizing for calling other things flops in the past and suggesting they've been wrong about the word.

Maybe...maybe not. Even if people do realize they're wrong, it's unlikely that they would enter this thread to publicly apologize. When people realize they were wrong, it's more likely that they keep it private and secretly adopt a different way of thinking. Hopefully in the future when someone thinks of calling a game a flop based on expectations, they'll think of this thread and realize how ridiculous that reasoning is.

And even if I didn't convince anyone, it's still worth trying anyway.