The Wii U didn't meet our expectations. Is it a flop?

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Mnementh said:

Ckmlb1 said:

snowdog said:

It's outsold both the PS3 and 360 during their launches and sold around 80% of the Wii sales during its launch. Not a flop by any stretch of the imagination.

PS3 was 600 dollars at launch, Xbox 360 (400$) and Wii were both supply constrainted at launch. The Wii U is 350 dollars and abundent in supply.

Edit: PS3 also didn't release in Europe till March 2007 (4 months after the NA launch).

I don't know why price and supply-constraints are important. The console sells what it sells. Surely, price influences the demand, but the same does advertisement and games. Should we say, that PS2-launch-numbers aren't comparable, because the system had good games, was cheap and had good advertisement? Nobody forced Sony to price the PS3 at 600 €/$, they could have reduced the specs and release to a lower price-point.

The later release on the other hand is a point, but considering that:

WiiU, Japan, first 4 weeks: 644,474

WiiU, Europe, first 4 weeks: 415,426

WiiU, USA, first 4 weeks: 849,068

Sum:  1,908,968

PS3, Japan, first 4 weeks: 197,567

PS3, Europe, first 4 weeks: 743,910

PS3, USA, first 4 weeks:  378,603

Sum:  1,320,080

So, the WiiU launched better than PS3 even if you take into account the later launch.

And stop the crap, that this comparison is not working because of the price, otherwise I start to praise 3DO-launch.

Who praised the sales numbers of the PS3 launch? I said the price was one of the major reasons it didn't sell well early in the generation and started very slow. The Wii U standard is launching at almost half the price the PS3 did, I think that effects sales numbers quite a bit. Pretty sure the 3DO was not a success. And of course supply constraints matter, if the console is always in short supply from the manufacturers then it's harder to buy.