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Jay520 said:

Many people on the Chartz believe that a flop is a product that fails to meet expectations of forum members. I personally find this line of thinking to be absurd, but people insist that expectations are the best way to determine if a product is a flop. Here is an accurate definition of a flop based on expectations.

- flop: [noun] - a product that performs considerably below the general expectations of the community.

Let's apply this reasoning to determine if the Wii U is a flop or not. 

Observe

Expected Wii U Sales 3.44m
Actual Wii U Sales 2.45m
Percent Difference -29%
# of expectations met 16 (32%)
# of expectations not met 34 (68%)

Expected Wii U sales = average predictions based on this thread
Actual Wii U sales are according to VGChartz

Again, I don't agree with the reasoning that expectations determine a product's success, but many do. For those who do, is the Wii U a flop? It only met 32% of total predictions. I'm not too sure with the logic behind this reasoning, so for those who follow this reasoning, maybe you could help me out.

Is the Wii U a flop? If so, is it a MAJOR flop? If you answered yes to both, then the next question is obviously: Do we need to talk about it?

Discuss

EDIT: Oh, and for those who have previously used expectations to determine if a game is a flop, don't come in here and change your reasoning to suit your agenda (you know who you are). If you do, then you WILL BE EXPOSED.

So, is it myself or Rol that you are doing this to take a shot at?  The way the flop game works IS if people do have excessive expectations, and they don't meet it, it gets spun as a flop.  That is a BIG problem with getting caught up in too much hype.   This goes for Playstation All-Stars, Halo, GTA V, the Wii U, or anything else.  It is important that people top doing this.  The Wii U did gangbusters early.  Whether it has overabundance of stock now is another issue.  I haven't really looked into it that much, but did a local indie videogame store did get one traded in.  And I just called a local Gamestop and they do have them in.

My post was people expecting millions in sales out of Playstation All-Stars.  I never meant to say MOST, just some people expected it, and I was wondering why.

Well, maybe it would be worth talking about the future of console sales, because we may be going into a world of hurt.