When you think about it, Scientifically we really dont know anything.......

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Mazty said:

BenVTrigger said:

My friend no instrument ever recorded the center of the suns temperature......

Weve measured stuff near the surface that allows us to guess based on things we "know" what the center is.  You keep throwing arounds things like University to sound grand.  Use your basic human reasoning sir.

What Im saying is not a complex thought.  You cant know something 100 percent without in some way observing it.  That my friend is a fact.  You have to concede we do not know beyond without doubt the center of the suns temperature.  We dont. We really dont.  Again your dodgeing my ce tral point.

Im not saying the center of the sun isnt 27 million degrees as I believe we have enough evidence to probably say it is.  But the key there is im saying there is evidence which supportes it.  We dont know beyond question without direct observation.  That sir is a fact

The scientific method trumps human reasoning. 

Your thinking again is just wrong. You state that to know the temperature of the centre of the sun we would have to directly measure it. But that thinking is an infinite regression as how do we know the device is correct? We'd have to use a 2nd, and a 3rd, and a fourth etc, and then measure the measurements etc. It's nothing more then paranoia and not understanding how systems interconnect. 

The problem is what you are saying is not complex because you are not understanding the complex nature of the systems you are measuring. 

Here's a good example. To measure the movement of a glacier you believe some poor bastard would have to stand by it for decades with a ruler. 

However one indirect way glacial movement can be measured is when bodies emerge at the bottom of them. You determine when the person went missing, the date the body was found and there you have the movement of a glacier. 

Your central point is nothing more then you not understanding how systems are interconnected.

"You cant know something 100 percent without in some way observing it.  That my friend is a fact. "

Wrong. Due to the nature of waves, we can determine that the core of the earth is solid. We've never seen it, but thanks to physics, we know this to be a fact. 

Quoting for emphasis.

I know you said you were joking, but just in case.